from "year of the TIT(m)an-ic" 

........to building some LIFeBoats (Live-R-Boat)

I have been "alone" the whole year, with mixed feelings to say the least, its now more than 18 months since I finally after several attempts closed the door on Josee and at the beginning of the year started making my journey south, aiming for Ghana..and "landing" (Via Bucharest) in "Monty" (Montenegro) The recently frozen (again) "Blog" gives most of the story up until "RED october 2010 .....@ www.eured.wordpress.com so I wont repeat it here!  Today (4th/5th january 11) its surreal that another year has gone, but at the same time an "eternity" since those days in the flemish forest!  (n.b TIA also banned me, as with RAWK , today without explanation, I wonder if its because of "true challenges" to their "biased mods" (i mean they even banned FS!) or because of deliberate "spam" caused by the "CIA"
("C-nts, Idiots & A**holes")

This Year could best be described as "mutiny on the Titanic meets Life of Brian" (with script by a drunken monty python crew!)

The original "host" mucked around and although I flew  her to Anfield she wasnt a true RED..I gave here a TOUR too, wasted my time..

...but we saw the game @ Anfield when our Team ran out of luck and despite a 2-1 SEMI-final win over Atletico Madrid (the eventual winners) we didnt proceed..but I did proceed, against all odds & "organisers" (including "a crazy daisy fit") we got the first ever Balkan REDS meeting on my birthday weekend in BAR , and the rest of the weekend I was IN A Bar..<smile>
 
 

the guests came from as far as Mostar & Beograd...

soon after I moved to a "bungalow" in Toloshi, as my room needed renovation..with garden..and the neighbour was "green" too..

 ...but "typically complicated! ;)

The summer was HOT..and in LP the "protest movement" got "HOTTER"

the BS factor was in evidence as bankers & a CHELSKI chairman, (Broughton) & a C-nt called Cecil ("Mr Christian" P) played "monopoly" with our club..add the "Texan cowboys" and is it any wonder we had a recipe for disaster ..almost like making Adolf caretaker of a synagogue or the Pope giving sermons @ mecca!...luckily WE had Rafa...didn't we  (always LFC 24/7)
 

"SoS Committee" woke up, and late....in the summer, a concert, a march...Black Shirts when I went to the home V Sunderland!..

promises , celebs, "finance 4 the fans" , credit Union, mass debate, @ yet  ANOTHER ale-house meeting of SoS-Sharelfc more & more promises, of a supporters TAKE-OVER ... then a "court-room drama".......( some were fooled into "admiring" these conmen who had forced out OUR Rafa.....)

some unbelievable stage-managed "drama" with accusations flying across the Atlantic and "LFC fans" appearing before the high court whilst "hero" broughton and purslow "save the day" in a farce what would embarass kiddies pantomime.. (blue fits the sorry saga)

talking  of Kids, this year, there was NO answer at the last known (Dublin) address of Noela and Annika's Neighbours (or sub-papa) seem to have "lost" the birthday presents I sent him!

Whilst the STATE still sanctioned "legalised kidnapping" by mothers ,,,, my complaints @ ECHR/EU parliament wont get "lobbied" by a cold society!

Instead there was "compensation" with more Meetings of the "Balkan REDS" in S-KOP-je , Stara-P (Ivan & co..)  & in the "party-train" from BeogRED to Bucharest with Luka & the 7 SerBoys

Then.............and Then ...after the New Yankers (NESV ..now FSG") came in and endorsed HIM??????????????????.."judge me after 10 games"  well Hodgson ...if you are a "coach" we would prefer one with WHEELS, it s MUCH more USEFUL...and they KEPT back-stabbing *URSLOW on the Board too!

In SPITE of the Yankers, hodgson & purslow, a contuation of the Biased anti-Rafa media & idiot "pundits" WE had hopes and my local mates were excited with LA-NE, (even though they took his number and gave it to Joe "Stole that Goal" Cole.

THEY employed this (Hodgson ; buddy of Fergie) ....and Betrayed a GOOD man Like THIS (Rafa) who made us FEEL like THIS...
 
 

Then as IF to COMPOUND the NEGATIVE...the "New Yankers"
...with John HENRY & Tom WERNER ( a right pair of T*Ts calling them selves " FSG"deciding to bring in "DAMIEN" ....

YES ..we are heading for the FINAL CONFLICT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

still, we  had some rare High points with magic from ...Stevie &  TORRES...celebrated with Veli & janko in "west side" & later @ Nags Head <smile>

..a few special Moments killed chelski thanks to TORRES!!  ......   SOMEONE asked for a SPANISH Translation of Nando's Opinion..about the management, the removal of Rafa and  "Hodgson hoofball tactics" , Torres said "wolrd wide bankers" (maybe)

so what do they think?

a winning start and a New management on & off the park???
 

,,,,, images to warm my Heart...and bring a smile..
 

So much more "spin" and propaganda, in the media , an old trick, just keep feeding the public on BS and eventually wear "rebellion" down by "Kop-outs"..so that we then find ourselves in a couple of months still with hodgson and still in crisis??..seen it all before..the old saying is still true "you can fool all of the people some of the time...etc"..we really made a mess of a chance in the summer to make a fulll backed supporters action for an EQUAL stake-holiding

REDS, did you put away the banners & the scarves calling for yank(er)s OUT?? (you were warned about accepting the NESV too easily just because the previous c-nts did so much damage!) enough is enough, no improvement after Hicks, a demoralising "coach", Purslow STILL a director = Lfc fans conned by "smooth talking & listening" Henry & Werner....who apparently only want to make money out of us,..wake up Reds, boycott games & shops, then THEY will act when MONEY is lost, not just "listen"

Liverpool Echo editors...aren't you ashamed to attempt to con the 97% of supporters who pay to watch Lfc and dont want to see hodgsons face again!! ...everyone knows the national press hates us and has a "clear agenda" but "Joe Cole stole the goal" ...should be the headline on the local news (the national press will NEVER want us to suceed) and HIS manager (from the kings road mafia) Stole Benitez's job, too.."supersub" ??? cole did nothing except risk the goal being declared offside/.

and the Team played "according to Rafa" , that was not "hodgson hoofball"..!!!..... the new yankers are either clueless, naive or ......as bad as .. G & H? ..I do NOT feel any better than in the the summer... do you??..wheres the actual evidence of improvement, or even a "feel good" factor?..9 points lost and a chance for us to own Lfc would be an improvement but swapping one group of vultures for another "nicer" lot is not doing our club any good..

who will advise them?? Purslow, the explayers?.(none of which have ever sucesfully managed a top club) . Comolli? (who "admires hodgson") ...I understand that Werner was involved in the comedy series "soap" a parody of the series that fill the tv programmes, well Tom , you dont impress me one bit! ...and this "parody" of management is no better...Do you Henry realise that you are the equivalent "sports business" of roy hodgson...

you "succesfully " managed a baseball team whose "world series" is confined to your own nation and your marketing experience confirned to an american market thats easily satisfied with "fast food lifestyle" ...and like our "coach" with "35 years of managerial experience" you insult our intelligence by coming on with your "listening" ..BS! ...you have also never managed a "global entity like Liverpool" off the field, like hodgson has never won anything significant with a top club, YOU are as out of depth as he is...

keeping Purslow , appointing Comolli over Kenny and the continuation of the Lfctv / official website "pro-hobson/anti-Rafa spin fools NONE of the core supporters, and if you think we are powerless, just watch us!!

the 1st of january @ Anfield Stadium..was the worst attendance in 6 years!...

the MORE the media try to cover up the crisis and protect hodgson with propaganda &"spin" ..the MORE supporters will rebel, we already started a boycott of games & shops worldwide..soon Henry-Werner you will have to give more tickets away! "listening" to us is NOT enough!

we lost Rafa Masch Insua Benny & Aquilani...replaced by hodgson , konch, poulsen cole & Meireles ...so out of that lot only Meireles is a plus (maybe on a par with Alberto if he scored goals) so a year of decline,,.its been like the titanic , with the script written by the monty python group..

SoS failed to live up to the "Spirit of Shankly" waiting far too long to act for Supporters and swallowed the "courting" and slick PR of NESV, as so many fans did..

Jan 1st was a hopeful sign that maybe Kenny could save us..but I suspect another false dawn..I hope I am wrong! we global REDS will boycott games and shops until LFC is "cleaned out" and "pundits" stop "spinning" the truth (and including ex-players)

..its not a pretty picture but it could and should be, but supporters MUST raise their voices because we cant trust anyone in the "office" ..Kenny as caretaker at leats could bring back some hope..after a year of sinking that maybe we can build a "lifeboat" all the berst to all true REDS..YOU will never walk alone!

when will the ex players & media "pundits" stop defending the indefensible hodgson???? ..its pathetic now..dragging them out, trying to shame us?...well its you who should be ashamed Ian, "you cant fool all the people all the time!"

retaining Purslow (still an LFC Director..no wonder we are in the sh*te!) and endorsing hodgson when it would have been better to say nothing about him, loading credit on anfield and melwood!! and then continuation of the "Lfc tv spin" censoring callers & feeding the anti-rafa brigade to prop up hodgson..! ..

it all tastes of you being the equivalent of hodgson, just because you had a "success" elsewhere in a limited environment you think you can take on the biggest name in the most popular sport in the world?? think again!

The most suspicious was that Broughton didnt DO any "hunting" for a new yanker or a new manager..because the same broker who brought in tHicks & co also introduced NESV!! ...???

and as broughton' s club is at one end of the Kings Road and hodgson ex club at the other end its not strange how much of the "activity" has centred around that part of west london...REDS wake up..

;) joking, as for the sun, has not stopped rraining all week, as for love ..given up on women, as long as my "LIVERBIRD" becomes faithful again, and stops knocking around with that old codger sitting in Rafas seat, that would do me.. lol ..."own business" well its NO business..but my own ;) MyCLUB.

Re: John Henry got himself the "bargain of the century"

    “This is a steal,” said Marc Ganis, a Chicago-based consultant who was hired by a Chinese group negotiating to buy the club. There is a reason John Henry was so eager to close this deal -- he got himself the bargain of the century.”

    "Two bankers who requested anonymity say that, under ordinary circumstances, the team would have been worth an additional 100 million to 150 million pounds. In five years, it may be worth twice as much, they said."

the referee today who failed to book knight for an obvious foul in first 5 mins, has not protected Torres and given bolton every decision, better creative build up, not so many hoofs today ..bit of luck needed ..ignored hodgson at half-time lads!!! ....only 35 thousand at anfield, all those people who wanted Rafa out, see the mess now? Henry & Werner will have to give away tickets to fill it with hodgson there!! just showed how much footy we played from the back, with Fabio & Danny Agger picking the ball from Pepe and feeding it instead of hodgsons boy hoofing every time, I think Kenny must have had some words

just showed how much footy we played from the back, with Fabio & Danny Agger picking the ball from pepe and feeding it instead of hodgsons boy hoofing every time, I think kenny must have had some words!!

For me, its not necessarily correct to say that getting to 4th spot is an improvement, because this season looks far more open than last with everyone dropping points. Last season, Chelski won by getting an average of 2.26 pts per game (86 points), currently, the mancs are on 2.06 - on track for 78 points. So 4th spot may be easier to attain this season ... in terms of points total at least. So, for this season to be an improvement on last season, we need to get more than 63 points AND get further than the semi-finals of a European competition. This is what was required to get our previous manager sacked, so this is what needs to be bettered this season to see if there has been an improvement. We had a dreadful average of 1.65 points/game last season. So far this season, we are on 1.26 pt/game, on track for 48 points. There needs to be a MASSIVE improvement if we are to better last season's points total.

, I'd want him gone regardless. He is not coping at a big club, he doesn't understand the club, he doesn't understand the fans, he doesn't "get" what this club is about. He can't change his mid-table mentality (he's had it for 20+ years ) with fear when we play anywhere but home. He's just not the man for the Liverpool management job!

Year of a LifeBoat...or LIVE-R-Boat?

I feel that because of the absolute lies told by the media about Rafa and that NESV know almost nothing about footy they dont have the "balls"..but now with 97% publicly against hodgson the wise move is to appoint Kenny to truly "take care"... of the team and then decide at the end of the season, Rafa knows everything..but I thinks its a mistake now to appoint anyone else.., there is too much "politics" in the office at Anfield, that has to be "cleaned" ..getting rid of purslow & others who were with tHicks is a start, lets get Kenny back to calm it down & build the performanes up ..no outsider will have a chance with the poltiics i have been worried about the Lfc "office" for a bl**dy long time! and i am about to f**king explode! we have got 83 million debt that Nesv secured against Anfield & Melwood mate!..the wse choice in the current situ is to put Kenny back in charge , as true care-taker and wait until the summer to consider all other "possibilities"under Hicks & gillet control from the scene..is vital for a healthy future! btw we would like you guys to come to a special meeting in Sarajevo 5/6 th march, tell REDS mates please?? best wish to all for the new year and future .. salute!! lots of speculation..but IMO opinion any outsider would be fed to the back-stabbing sharks stillnot yet cleaned out @ LFC..anyway if Henry & Werner dont back the supporters they will have to give tickets away because we global Reds are going on "boyciott" games & shops until they do!

It didn't hurt Chelski though, all of their managers have been able to make mistakes, Rafa was always on the edge of a disaster under the Hicks and Gillett era... he was walking a tight rope, and i honestly can't think of anyone else that would have stayed on the rope as long as Rafa did under the circumstances... what a manager he was.

hodgson s tactics are archaic - 442 - drop off the opposition regardless of their ability, make your wide men defend first and play on the counter, pump long direct balls for torres to control with his head when he's played his entire career on the shoulder of the last defender, tell your central midfielders not to get ahead of the ball and your fullbacks not to cross the half way line................. motivational methods are non existant - slag off Johnson to the press then apologise, slag off Cole to the press and then apologise, slag off  the fans to the press and then apologise, call yoour reserves  also rans, tell them they let you down badly when your tactics mean we lose at home to Northampton, take no responsibility for anty failure and all the credit if you win

 transfers - Poulsen, Konchesky, Jones... spend 11 mil on Meireles whose entire career has been in centre midfield and then play him on the right and say you dont know his best position, tell Cole you dont know his best position and midfield is midfield it does not matter where you play.....

 leadership non-existent you have to take responsibility before you can lead anybody

communication ..........asked for fergusons forgiveness for managing Liverpool, praised Alder Hey as the 2nd best childrens hospital in the country, etc etc points --- he's english, he has lots of friends in the media, he's a yes man (depends who you are) and 35 years of management experience and LMA manager of the year (joining Joe Kinnear, Frank Clark, Peter Reid, Danny Wilson, Dave Jones, Alan Curbishley.......the only 'foriegn' manager ever to win it is Wenger and for one of those he had to go a season unbeaten), did I mention he's english and has lots of friends in the footballl hierarchy

v Bolton on 1st jan ;  It was a team that  lot of Reds would pick - balanced with Kuyt on the right and Maxi on the left with Agger playing at last. The point being that all the sh*te  about the players being no good is just t Boll*x . Konchesky, Poulsen and Cole didn't start, and apart from Meireles they were all in Benitez's squad last season. When Gerrard came on that made it eleven out of eleven  Though it was a 4-4-2 the players seemed to be playing with less of the usual Hodgon rigidity - actually passing through the midfield and playing balls to Torres's feet. So in six months, where we have been told constantly that RH needed his own players, to get rid of the sh*te Benitez left him, and be allowed to drill the players into playing his brand of hoof ball, we finally show some attacking quality and spirit with that pile of shite RH needs to get rid of.

He may have finally seen he light but it's six months too late. He's had 35 years to learn about management. I don't want his crap tactics here and if it takes a result like against Wolves and the prospect of the sack to change is mind, then that's too late as well. He's meant to be the experienced manager not a rookie learning as he goes See didn't need to mention any other Liverpool manager - the bloke defines his own level of incompetence

Sunday January 02 2011

F ootball supporters turning on their club's manager is not new but for a manager to turn on his club's supporters is more unusual.

Roy Hodgson's dismal and utterly predictable time as Liverpool manager effectively came to an end last Wednesday night. Hodgson is just a patsy, one of the last remaining figures from the old regime. The hopes of the Fenway Sports Group that the club could stagger on until the summer vanished with that defeat to Wolves.Hodgson's contribution after the game, when he criticised the lack of support he has received from the supporters, might have deflected from the defeat but not as he imagined. Once more, he demonstrated why Liverpool is not only too big a club, even in its dysfunction, for him to manage but also a club he doesn't understand.

The chant of 'Hodgson for England' was a hydra-headed beast. It was the first time Liverpool fans had chanted Hodgson's name and they were only doing it to discard him. In the process they were offering him to an entity they care nothing about: England.Hodgson was the establishment's appointment. It played well among certain opinion-formers, opinion-formers who had been very impressed with Christian Purslow. Last Wednesday night, Liverpool fans demonstrated that these men know nothing about Liverpool Football Club and its otherness.Those who felt it was significant that Liverpool appoint an English manager failed to grasp the qualities that make the club, in the eyes of its supporters at least, different. Hodgson was coming from middle England. He is a church warden, a desk sergeant, a man whose reasonableness is only matched by a sense of persecution that he has not been given a fair deal. In another life, you could see him complaining if the 7.47 from Clapham Junction was running late.

In this life, he has complained about everything: the players he has had to work with, the number of times Liverpool appear on television and the scrutiny of the media (no manager has had such powerful backing from press and television). His grumbling has confirmed that he cannot do the job. At times, he almost seems to think it himself. "I don't think they [the fans] got behind my appointment," he said on Friday, "and there's no reason why they should."
He was an appointment made in crisis. Hanging over the club in the summer was the ownership of Tom Hicks and George Gillett (Jose Mourinho let it be known that the ownership would have to change before he would consider the job) but while that ruled out top managers, it was not the conflict that led to Hodgson's appointment.

Christian Purslow fancied himself as a football man. He was considered a financial wizard. "He saw himself as the Fernando Torres of finance," said one who worked closely with him. Purslow would be vindicated on the financial front in one respect: he helped get Hicks and Gillett out of Liverpool. His involvement in anything to do with the football side of Liverpool was another story. In the last unhappy year of Rafael Benitez's time as manager, Purslow was never slow to offer an opinion. He became a sounding board for influential players, who expressed their dissatisfaction. There was rarely a point during Benitez's time when players weren't dissatisfied -- that was part of his managerial style. Yet, on the field, until last season, results would often mask the dissatisfaction. Victory usually does.

In Benitez's last season, decay set it. The reasons for this would be disputed by all those involved but when Benitez was worn down by the endless feuds and his contribution to them, a different appointment had to be made. Despite talking to other candidates, Purslow was always drawn to Hodgson. He offered reasonableness and an ability to talk intelligently about other subjects, to mention Philip Roth or John Updike, where Benitez would just want more.
After a manager who saw everything in terms of war, Liverpool wanted peace. It was an appalling reading of the situation. Liverpool imagined a more harmonious club with a manager who would offer hugs and kind words where Benitez would just seek endless, tiring improvement.

Well, the hugs don't work. Hodgson has been defensive, not open, and those who felt he would bring an improvement in Liverpool's style of play had really not paid attention during his career. He was always in an impossible position. A significant minority of supporters mourned Benitez and there is something of the post-Saipan atmosphere at Liverpool at the moment. The fans who have turned on Hodgson are not, as some suggest, falling victim to modern life's impatience. If they were merely impatient, it would not explain why some remain loyal to Benitez. Sky can dismiss the idea of Benitez returning but they would be better asking why some supporters remain loyal to the former manager and never felt close to Hodgson, except to demonstrate some ex officio loyalty.

As in so many things, they misread the club when they say it is unlike Liverpool to turn on a manager. Liverpool has never appointed a manager like Hodgson before. Before the game against Wolves, Hodgson once again defended himself and insisted he was the right man for the job. "I know that I am capable of doing this job, but maybe the expectations and ambitions of the club were too high and weren't lessened by the fact that I came off the back of such a good season." In other words, he could manage a club like Liverpool if it wasn't a club like Liverpool. If it was, say, Fulham. Other managers have battled with the expectation of Liverpool supporters but none has gone about setting the bar as low as Hodgson.

After a win against Aston Villa, Hodgson was asked by his friends at Sky, Martin Tyler's Monkey and the hairy-handed halfwit, if this was title-winning form. The friends dissolved in laughter. The Fulham manager was laughing. Liverpool challenging for the title wasn't always as preposterous. Nobody expected Liverpool to do that this season, but there has been a dismantling of expectation. That night, two friends and bullshitters met. Hodgson and Houllier. Houllier made his own disastrous misreading of Aston Villa supporters when he waved to the Liverpool fans but not his own at the end of the game. Last week, he backed Hodgson to get it right. It could have been the kiss of death. In fact, he might have kissed himself to death. A few weeks ago, Hodgson spoke about how he had to overturn decisions made by Purslow about players the then managing director felt should leave the club.

It was another astonishing glimpse into the summer's chaos. Purslow, it turned out, was no judge of a player. He pursued Joe Cole for his signature when other voices who were then at the club described the player as "brainless". Hodgson explained how he had kept some players Purslow didn't rate. A few pointed out that Purslow had appointed Hodgson too. Those who defend Hodgson by saying he has not changed as a manager since last summer when he won the Manager of the Year award are getting close to the truth. Hodgson hasn't got any worse, he was never good enough in the first place. On Wednesday, as he talked about a lack of respect to Wolves if people expect Liverpool to beat them easily and droned about the result not always matching the expectations of the supporters (his expectations were clearly different), he sounded again like a man drained of ambition.

He believed his achievements in the past year entitled him to the Liverpool job. He has the bureaucrat's mindset: he works slowly and methodically and eventually becomes an assistant secretary. "To some extent it was a reward for the work I had put in, not just at Fulham but in the years before. It was a recognition of my competence." Hodgson used to compare his record to Alex Ferguson's if only people would take the Scandinavian leagues into account. "Those of us who work in the game and have been working in the game a long time know that the magic wand doesn't exist," he said last week.
Again it is a reasonable position but the managers who make a difference at Liverpool, Manchester United or Arsenal believe they can change everything. They believe in their own magic. Hodgson's strength is making mediocre teams slightly less mediocre and of never expecting too much.

The chants for Kenny Dalglish that were heard again on Wednesday do not necessarily mean that the fans see him as the saviour. This is not Newcastle, longing for the return of Kevin Keegan. Simply, Dalglish represents everything Hodgson is not and, in fairness, everything Hodgson could or would not hope to be.
Dalglish watched people die supporting his football club and then felt it was his duty to allow this tragedy to consume him. If he could be a temporary appointment, it would at least have the benefit of unifying the club. Dalglish, however, may no longer be interested in a caretaker position.

Liverpool will need to look for a man of ambition after that. Those who suggest the senior players at the club should be consulted are in danger of making the same mistakes again. Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher felt they could work with Hodgson when their relationship with Benitez had broken down. One of the new manager's biggest tasks will be to confront the problem of Gerrard, who has lost his explosiveness, and gently ease Carragher, who is past it, out the door. Carragher signed a new contract on the last day of the old regime which was another curious decision in a summer when many were made. Hodgson's appointment was the most calamitous of all. In six months, he has dragged Liverpool into a relegation battle and, in his own way, remodelled the club in his image.

If part of his job specification was to shatter the expectations at Liverpool Football Club, then he can walk away with his head held high.

- Dion Fanning
 
 

TW/DS/JS/MB>Some fans fed by media "spin" talk a lot of nonsense, a lot of it is the press after Rafa's rant at Fergie, cos they all *ss lick him and don't like people standin up to him
 all know by now why we got Roy.....H & G wanted a 'yes man' who would keep quiet irrespective of the club's dilema at the time as they had lied so much to Rafa about so many things he refused to take any more cr*p from them.........so Purslow, fired Rafa & hired Roy,a job that he had no portfolio for nor still doesn't have in his 'advisory' capacity today......he, Purslow hopefully will be the final bit of that grotty jigsaw to be cast out!,  Hindsight is wonderful........what a shame David Moores couldn't patch up his differences with Steve Morgan and agreed to a deal. Instead, ill advised, he sold to the yanks........and we now find our club in the mire ......I.m sure Morgan would have been a good owner....he's been a red all his life.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/01/02/article-0-0CA0F801000005DC-76_634x386.jpg  ....if RH had a million years to as you say, get it right, he wouldn't be able to do it.......he's just a mid-table manager and this job is too big for him in every sense... the situation at chelsea is interesting the sack ray wilkins and there form has been rubbish ever since, they looked unstoppable first ten games.....it seems to me one individual can change the mind set of a team and can directly affect results ....look at what harry redknapp did at spurs first season took them off the bottom of the league into 8th and league cup final ....roy hasnt done a good job, him doing a good job would have been make a couple of great signing start of the seaon with the 20 million he spent and have us in or near the top 4 and playing good flowing football that the team even in its poor state is still capable of playing .......hes not transfer savy hes not a great tactician hes not a great motivator hes terrible with the media ......i mean come do these yanks need a rocket up the ar*e get the f..ker out before he does any more damage . Rafa was, among others, a man of the people at LFC, he feared no one, and defended the players, team & club..............for that alone he's up there with the fans, and always will be. YNWA Rafa roy is roy and he will prob go on and manage west ham or championship side and he will do fine ....but he hasnt for 1 min got to grips with the expectations at liverpool .......we should never have the mentailty of mid table team ...man united didnt have that mentailty for 26 years and they got there in the end we will do the same under kenny or whoever comes in i beilive in the next 5 years we will claim our place back as number 1
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ChriS SmiTH> team played something like we used to, despite of hodgson, and proves that when we play footy , passing from the back, Agger & Fabio ..we can win games, team would do better without a coach than with hodgson..still some rare old BS being spread arounf, some "pundits" still trying to twist & spin the facts..but core supporters know whats going on..and the boycott will get the message across to NESV... Kenny knows just how bad hodgson is and the team played on saturday AGAINST the tactics of hodgson..

a) I am member of Lfc, SoS and Sharelfc, was captain of my local team when I was young, I also coach kids , I have formed several supporters clubs and formed the european network for Liverpool supporters..and have stood on the kop in the days of Shanks Paisley & kenny, I support the REds all over europe to this day..
b) Rafa was Lfc 24/7 he understands us, true Reds know that he was betrayed by Hicks, broughton & Purslow, aided by xenophobic media & some people who should know better
c) Hodgson was employed by frauds..NOTE ; FRAUDS!!! HE was not appointed by a proper Lfc, HE is a fraud! he is impersonating a Liverpool manager
d) he has contradicted himself and attacked everyone and attempted to drag us down to a level that makes one think that he was employed to destroy our "Liverpool way" not "steady the ship"
e:WE know what YNWA is all about ...its NOT about supporting a complete LIAR!!!!

the media liars and traitors @ the club  shoudl be banned from association with us & from wearing an Lfc shirt and the Liverbird on it shoudl burn through your heart..GO way purslow  and take hodgson with you, you pair of fools.!

Its interesting, yet depressing &  quite clearly we dont need "stats" to see how bad things are..the problem is that it seems we have naive owners getting bad advice or waiting for some miracle CEO to come in, yet its the blind leading the blind.. if the ...Henry-Werner combo know nothing about footy then who will tell them of a capable CEO?..WE know our club better than anyone and WE pay for it!!..very nice ( Paul tomkins) analysis, but even the poor kids just starting to go to Anfield can see the problems ..hodgson is out of his depth by a million miles! WE , global REDS, supporters must make sure he goes...now! ..tell the CLUB !!!

Shanks: if you can't make decisions in life, you're a bloody menace.You'd be better becoming an MP!'

they will (again!) say "give (judge me after 10 games) hodgson time" , yeah, how about in walton jail for impersonating a Liverpool manager?(FS) there is a selfish agenda to keep him there, so you have to start questioning the owners reasons or capability..this is not a USA sports franchise, we are LIVERPOOL, dont apply "normal rules" to us...
is anyone really managing Lfc? the clown? his son?, purslow & comolli? ? media? couple of players? ex-players? or some yankers? so hodgson goes last minute shopping ? @morrisons?..get some booze in for me please-I want to try to forget what these people have done & are doing to my club! Like the titanic approaching the iceberg, screaming out a warning, watch it zig-zagging but accelerating faster towards the end.

why is it less dangerous to have a couple of people who have also had "success" in the states but know nothing about footy than the previous disasterous duo? they may be "nicer" and been sucessful in a different sport in a different market, but also seem relatively clueless in ours, listening to the wrong "advisers" (keeping hodgson and retaining back-stabber purslow, dont impress me at all) and appointed comolli who "admires hodgson" is a worry! IF we had "lost 9 points" by administration we would have at least cleaned out all the sh*te & still have been better off than having hodgson losing most of our points by defeatist footy .. supporters & ex players/celebs worldwide could come together with the Liverpool community built up funds & could have build upon our core traditions and not a another "yanker franchise"..

The "politics" of the worlds most popular sport is busines, Liverpool Football club and its unique identity is being destroyed by a succesion of "events" Texan fraudsters, chelski loving chairman, and a money man who through a back-stabbing "move" forced the most succesful manager Lfc have had in 20 years to be replaced by a man whose credentials scream "loser" at even the most biased management expert,,

naive?, inept? conspiracy? ...who knows ? ... but the new owners could bring a lot of trust back by sharing the ownership with supporters by encouraging a share purshase scheme, and immediately by re-instatement of Kenny DALGLISH (who really could be a CARE taker, or Rafa Benitez, who despite the media bias was unfairly treated by Lfc s board of Directors (who ied to him as did Valencia and Inter) I vote for Henry - Werner to replace hodgson with Kenny or Rafa. Now , before further damage!

 I am a member and I complained without answer..SoS is a great idea, in fact i dont think many supporters realise what power we Do have if collectively organised, its our club, LFC was built on our support and it surivives by the local & global fan base on match days, replica kits souvenirs etc..it is a billion-dollar baby and NESV hav a "bargain" IF its managed properly, and one way would be to share ownership and ensure fans loyalty by not only emotional but a stake-owning bond with the club..

a) SoS committee are 2 years late with getting the fund off the ground, it was again promised "by xmas" !! ???
b) with a claimed 50,000 combined membership why is it so slow to act?..we could have had our own lawyer fighting to be included when purslow & broughton simply excluded us from the sales process
c) is it enough from Henry-Werner to be (just) listening , when arguably as much damage is being done now to LFc as was threatened at the time of G & H?
d) I made the point at the time, that maybe 9 points loss was a worthy "bullet to bite" if it cleared out the suits - but purslow (& of course the fool hodgson) were retained - if NESV wanted to be careful why did they endorse hodgson , why not be quiet and seek advice from supporters (or did someone @ SoS etc back hodgson???
e) Was there ever a report made of Broughton/Purslow's sales selection process or manager recruiting activity?
too many questions . and the continued "spin" of the official website & Lfctv is also of concern..
- why didnt SoS inform members clearly that NESV had indebted Anfield & Melwood against the 83 million CURRENT bank lending?
- why employ comolli (who "admires" hodgson!!") instead of Kenny as footy director (or as caretaker or now emergency manager) ?

As member of both SoS & ShareLfc, that the formation of a the promised SoS-SLfc fund ("by xmas") has not materialised is a monumental tragedy as I proposed 2 years ago, IF we had been properly prepared  to negociate with the "occupational board" we could have forced involvement then! Even the risk of losing 9 points would have been preferable to the nightmare journey of the last 6 months since the succesive diaster that was Parry to Hicks & Purslow to Broughton to Hodgson is a nightmare haunting many die hard Reds at this time of the year

Why are so many bliinkered about the new "yankers" just because the previous were a disaster?

- NESV "talks" to supporters, but  LfcTv  dont let "disgruntled fans" call in, by ratio 9-to 1 are unhappy but if you watch their programme you think it was "balanced" 50/50!!!
- NESV were introduced by the same broker as G * H..? so why is it less dangerous to have a couple of people who have also had "succeses" in the states but know nothing about footy than the previous disasterous duo?-
-Was there a report of Broughton/Purslow's sales selection process or manager recruiting activity? &  why didnt ShareLfc inform members clearly that NESV had indebted Anfield & Melwood against the 83 million CURRENT bank lending?

The supporters fund was not promoted as a good investment ..a big mistake in my opinion! NESV did acquire a "Billion-dollar + global brand" for around a fifth !!

Keeping hodgson and retaining back-stabber purslow, dont impress me at all, and comolli who "admires hodgson",is a worry!  administration could have at least cleaned out the club still be better off than having hodgson losing most of our points by defeatist footy .. supporters & explayers/celebs worldwide could come together with the Liverpool community built up funds & could have build upon our core traditions and not a another "yanker franchise"..

naive?, inept? conspiracy? ...who knows ? ... but the new owners could bring a lot of trust back by sharing the ownership with all supporters by encouraging a 10 year share purshase scheme, in co-op with SoS/SLfc, & employ Kenny (who really could be a CARE taker) or Rafa Benitez, who despite media bias was unfairly treated by Lfc'board of Directors and deserves the chance to complete his original contract.  If they really care about supporters wishes then hodgson must be removed before further damage!

 i dont think many supporters realise what power we DO have if collectively organised, its our club, LFC was built on our support and it surivives by the local & glooal fan base on match days, replica kits souvenirs etc..it is a billion-dollar baby and NESV hav a "bargain" IF its managed properly, and one way would be to share ownership and ensure fans loyalty by not only emotional but a stake-owning bond with the club..

ChriS-EuRED> it is Sad when even local journalists try to make a platform for a hodgson who is unwanted by 95% of Lfc fans..http://tinyurl.com/23lglxo   talking of "hate campaigns"...& sad when people call them selves "Lfc fans" act so much like the media hypocrits are in abundance  some few fans pretending to have Lfc interest at hearts show more xenophobic tendances that helped the media & Hicks-Purslow/Broughton force out our best manager since Kenny 20 years ago ,...practise what you preach , Hansel & gretel...? ("Help Save Liverpool FC" ) That's an interesting first picture on your page. You might want to explain to those Italian Reds about the 'Black shirts' and your call for a boycott of Official merchandise amongst your GLOBAL REds as they seem to be pretty pleased with th...eir bags of bits & pieces from the club shop.

CS>hiya , Hansel or is it "gretel" today?...explain to you!!! ok,as i have missed our little "exchanges of idaes" ... i will try, even though it might take a long (life) time to get through to a limited mind like yours, if you read it properly instead of just looking , like a narrow-minded negative twerp , for something to put down..you would see that I tell the president of the Italian REDS of the boycott, and YOU have NO idea how much about the protest I send to the lads , say or explain to those lads -(who sent me the photo THEY took on their one-time only trip to Lp) ..they are NOW informed by me, not you,  none of you, @ SoS / SL, "Kop faiithful" or anywhere else, have a clue about formulation of a global REDS strategy NOR the experience or know-how of HOW to EFFECTIVELY co-ordinate outside of "anglo-saxon/scandanaviam" regions so, instead of supporting what I am doing - and please show me any thing i am actually DOIng that anything other than fighting for (global) supporter ownership at the expense of removal of the "suits" -.(.i suspect you are a closet-suit yourself) .. you seem determined to undermine any positive activity of my own, ..U are simply jealous that U dont get such invites..pathetic!
 

we were fooled into thinking NESV were saviours, if we had been in "administration" Supporters COULD have, with support from institutions and a global fan base taken over the club and amployed professional management, what we have seen is out of the frying pan..into the fire..Henry / Werner have..
- got a billion dollar... global entity for 217 million
- loaded 83 million credit on anfield / melwood
- RETAINED back-stabbing purslow...which explains..
- PUBlic endorsement of hodgson
- continued USA-style "spin" on LFc tv

we lost Rafa Masch Insua Benny & Aquilani...replaced by hodgson konch, poulsen cole & Meireles ...so out of that lot only Meireles is (maybe on a par with Alberto if he scored goals) so a year of decline,,.
its been like the titanic , with the script written by the monty python group..

SoS failed to live up to the "Spirit of Shankly" waiting far too long to act for Supporters and swallowed the "courting" and slick PR of NESV, as so many fans did..

Jan 1st was a hopeful sign that maybe Kenny copuld save us..but I suspect another false dawn..I hope I am wrong! we global REDS will boycott games and shops until LFC is "cleaned out" and "pundits" stop "spinning" the truth (and including explayers)

..its not a pretty picture but it could and should be, but supporters MUST raise their voices because we cant trust anyone in the "office" ..Kenny as caretaker at leats could bring back some hope..after a year of sinking taht maybe we can build a "lifeboat" all the berst to all true REDS..YOU will never walk alone!
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stop defending the indefensible hodgson???? ..its pathetic now..dragging them out, trying to shame us?...well its you who should be ashamed John, "you cant fool all the people all the time!

stop propping hodgson uo and dont quote mancs & blues as examples YOu should know better than that! what we see him doing is dragg...ing us down to HIS level Ian, a level YOu would not have accepted as a player.."hoofball tactics" with a player like Torres on the end of it???

wake UP! FFS!

p.s. John Henry.. YOU are now to blame..no more "spin" we judge you too on your "actions" or lack of them..

retaining Purslow (still an LFC Director..no wonder we are in the xxxx!) and endorsing hodgson when it would have been better to say nothing about him, loading credit on anfield and melwood!! and then continuation of the "L:fc tv spin" censoring callers & feeding the anti-rafa brigade to prop up hodgson..! ..

it all tastes of you being the equivalent of hodgson, just because you had a "success" elsewhere in a limited environment you think you can take on the biggest name in the most popular sport in the world?? think again!

(John Aldridge: Roy Hodgson needs to cure Liverpool’s travel sickness if he is to hold on to his job - News - - Liverpool Echo)