11031RED-R-Oc(K)T-BLOG ...
almost completed ; the "Hunt for RED october"
have been hungover but not a gullible fool
continue to question motives, i am now sober
and challenge those who damage LIV-ER-POOL!
;)
Just to smile ; is this an "exclusive" first meeting of hodgson and the Supporters Union ("SoS")??? :-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lc86JUAwwg&feature=related
Just prior to celebrating "ALL Saints" (All Hallows-een) the Celts "Samain" (dedicated to Noela)
..I titled the "Liverpool SuperNova" webpage (www.mypod-net.org/SuperNova.html)
with it and my "profile" pic was the "HUNT
for RED October"...
In the film of the same name the SUBmarine captain escaped both sides
attempts to destroy it, and maybe thats the message
of this month, whilst I still feel that the much needed "cleansing"
of a properly executed "administration" which then SHOULD have
beem secured by a supporters injunction to ensure that bankers passed
power back into our hands. However one "Texan"
suit & his buddies were replaced by "new Yanks"..and the "hunt
for RED october" battle (RED october;
Black Shirts)
becomes a more subtle contest for long-term ownership by Global
REDS..I have informed J.w Henry that will continue until
broughton & hodgson are gone, and good people (that look after
our supporters benefit, worldwide) replace them.
this is a fascinating comparison with the 2000
"UNSub" promotion, and the formation of the "FU" Union. A time of having
to take responsibility whether its footy or
life as a whole.. Having been "alien-hated"
before for telling the truth, I am used to the ignorant, naive or downright
evil attempting to keep me "quiet"..
There are young, or distant, Naive people who
can claim an excuse - BUT TOO many people CHOOSE to LOOK THE OTHER WAY
(attn GW! ....) THE CROOKS who cheated US,
and the bankers who bled us dry appointed people who renoved a OOOD man
who gave us 24/7 with a yes man...and thats
the story of our club and the World at large...
without raining on anyones parade,
i cant fail to see the irony in that for so long our chant has been "yanks
out" , althought the apparent main culprit is /was Texan tommy...it concerns
me how in our (righteous) anger & urgency in removing the disasterous
duo we have far too readily welcomed in the "new yanks"
???
my suspicions are aroused when obviously broughton
& purslow (who it seems lined up hodgson whilst Rafa was till manager)
are typical of modern business methods, their main "broker" in the NESV
sale was also the same one that introduced G & H !! ?..the (late) move
by SoS & ShareLfc to fund a supporters takeover was ignored by broughton
& purslow, yet the (conveniently blind) mainstream media were too quick
to hail purslow & broughton as "dragon slayers" ..
my feeling is that the million + global supporter/Lfc
fan base was shafted, twice...maybe these new yanks are better than the
previous devils, or maybe they are just better an PR (very early &
clever "courting" of supporters etc , without actually doing anything except
acquiring control of the club, which iS , despite the damager done
by all of the above (including the "pawn" ; yes man ; hodgson) a global
entity with billion dollar income (if properly managed) ?
Shapes of Things (The Yardbirds)
Shapes of things before my eyes,
Just teach me to despise.
Will time make men more wise?
Here within my lonely frame,
my eyes just heard my brain.
But will it seem the same?
(Come Tomorrow) Will I be older?
(Come Tomorrow) May be a soldier.
(Come Tomorrow) May I be bolder than today?
Now the trees are almost green.
But will they still be seen?
When time and tide have been.
Fall into your passing hands.
Please don't destroy these lands.
Don't make them desert sands.
Chorus, Lead.
Soon I hope that I will find,
Thoughts deep within my mind.
That won't displace my kind
Red Sox Front Office
Boston Red Sox
Fenway Park
4 Yawkey Way
Boston, MA 02215
(redsox.com / Tel: 617-226-6000)
for the confidential attn of Principal Owner John W. Henry
http://eured.wordpress.com
http://mypod-net.org/SuperNova.htm
(REd october; blackshirts strategy)
RED October ; Black shirts..
(cut from blog..“SoS” ..sending out a messag in Willie’s name?
Some call themselves SPIRIT of SHANKLY?
I have to say, quite Frankly
that I think its a CRIME
(i ‘ll try to make this rhyme!)
apart from a march
& a concert @ St. George’s hall
they have not done fecking much at ALL
Shanks would have taken control
taken foes by scruff of the neck
the Peoples man had courage
by fecking heck!
Suppoters who claim “We are the Club”
let me tell you..
this is the rub..
Its up to global REDS to take command
not some brief, some lawyer,
or other hand..
his Spirit lives, heres my tip…
in HIS name fight for (full) Owner-ship
..a simple injunction to freeze the club finance
on the grounds of mis-management,(in the interests of the supporters &
community at large) investigate all concerned -whilst register the 50-100,000
fans & celebrities collect their funds and start the Supporters tale-over..its
simple BUT needs proper co-ordination and I am not in LP..
Extracted from
I) Letter sent to “ShareLiverpool LF” (Rogan Taylor) & the Chairman
of “Spirit of Shankly”
(29th August 2008)
“Dear Rogan,
(snip) I Asked you a question in the Lighthouse
theatre last wednesday about “spiirit of shankly” aims..(snip) I do not
see any non-locals on either committee/board (SLfc or SoS) (snip)
“I feel a CLOSER presentation & PROMOTION
(of SLfc / SoS aims) is VITAL (snip)
“The purchase of a share @ GBP 5000 may be
felt too much for some members” WE have the facility…(snip)
(which) looks very do-able for many of the
100,000 global fans that we also perceive will support the supporter-shareholder
control of LFC.” (snip)
“THE REAL marketing of the “LIVERBIRD” brand
….” (snip)
“Your offer (in the meeting) to visit us and
combine initiatives is apreciated and I would like to fix some dates. (snip)
-”there are very many REDS all over the World
that have equal PASSION as RED scousers”
II) PUBLISHED in “KOP magazine” (march 2009)
“I wonder if Spirit of Shankly and ShareLfc
have done ENOUGH to inform (or even educate) the millions of fans worldwide
about the OPPORTUNITY that perhaps more mature supporters appreciate?”
(snip)
“we NEED dynamic management & effectively
a GLOBAL persepctive, bringing the essence of SOS & ShareLFC together
as two committees could, I fear (without insulting anyone concerned
with good intentions) turn this potential derby-winning racehouse into
a twin-camel.” (snip) I attended the recent meeting at Zeligs (snip) (snip)
“I for one, feel (and fear) that we may only
realise how good Rafa is after he has gone. – The first AGM of SoS has
NOT been adequately “sold” other than locally , and is is (also) my fear
that the TRUE spirit of SHANKLY is already being lost before we even LAUNCH
our “strategy”..ChriS SMITH (via email) “
True REDS Supporters – HEROES
…….occasionally naive but a LOT of true REDS
who gave up time & costs & energy & effort to fight for Y-OUR
club
amongst them ; “Fat Scouser” (RAWK forum)
Jonny (“Black Shirt” = standards corrupted”)several @ “Kop Faithful” (Steve?)
and certain supporters who helped SoS (maybe Jay Mac of SoS) organise
a march, concert, posters, flyers & travel etc and various individual
initaitives, banners & such…may YOU NEVER walk Alone.
WE (Global REDS) even started to move on a “SUPPORTERS INJUNCTION” (counter claim) & “Class action” V our enemies..(past, present & FUTURE???)
a) This fight is far from over, b) MB & CP are the villians who also damaged our club and C) WE supporters should have acted earlier to own our club, and must get involved (not just 1% of us)
we should (via SoS-SL) have enough funds to
do it – put in our own injunction to ensure OUR interests are protected
and If we allow NESV to profit from our income then we really ARE stupid
and get what we deserve = NOTHING!…apart from the benefits of combined
action (own media , forums & Kop Faithful/SoS-SL) should be promoting
not only our protest but that with a global sale of Lfc products, match
day, tv & other services, WE generate an income of over a BILLION,
which make 500 quid (even available @ 10 quid a month via credit union?)
a BARGAIN once-in-a-lifetime investment!!!
…often…the best form of defence is attack-
a lot of global REDS are keen to join the global REDS supporters injunction/”class
action” V Hicks & all our foes..through wind & rain…WE ARE THE
CLUB!
although only 1 % of Liverpool’s global supporters
have been “active” so far, we must not allow others to dictate our future
– WE are the club..and need to show it as much now as at any time..WE should
be taking the initiative making OUR claim via an injunction if necessary
to protect OUR club from further abuse, by anyone!
…The” counter claim” ..which indeed is not
but should be a simple injunction to protect our club & global supporters
from further damage/abuse..could include
- the need to protect the community from mis-management
or “fire sale” of arguably a “uniqueworld-famous cultural/heritage site”
(Anfield)
- the varuious claims global supporters have
against the ticket office & other Lfc departments
- apart from numerous complaints by UK fans,
non-uk supporters having less benefits than local supporters/fans despite
paying the same for fancards etc
- the overall & detailed damages to our
cliub and global image
- etc etc..
…through wind & rain…WE ARE THE CLUB
!IF ONLY(Lfc football supporters Union) SoS-SL
had come together a year earlier (as I proposed in 2008)…because in the
last month only 1% of our million + fan base “walked on”…at all-if
only 10% had acted before now WE would be owning the club (our club!)
take care, fellow (true ) REDS ..with hope…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc&feature=…player_embedded
…….. its not over yet, of course the mainstream and the fickle amongst us dont like “people power” but our society has been ruined by commercial/capitalist obsession and downright “greed is good , money is king” selfish behaviour , in society in general and particularly in football, Lfc are (still) the ……………
most succesful club, in the most important league , in the biggest game/culture of the global society, if we dont stand up and tell people what is right or wrong, and fight for (global) supporter ownership (and if ever a club should be owne…d by its supporters then its Liverpool football club) …..who will?..the apathetic person who has been “dumbed down” over generations by politicians & media?..
whether we / SoS win a share or not , whether we get rid of the backstabbing “suits” or not, maybe just maybe our kids will see that its not all a case of “show me the money”..
“our lives begin to end when we stop standing up and fighting for
our rights” – Martin luther King ?11016)
__________________________________________________________BRING BACK
RAFA!!_(Kenny until then?)________________________________________
CS11011> what we need tomorrow
- G & H out, (and co-operation by RBS
with Global REDS Union Network)
- quickly followed out by broughton, purslow
& hodgson
- no more "backstabbing suits" , fickle fans,
bankers or yankers exploiting our club
- Global REDS Supporters properly networked
with effective management running the club
I have written so much on this issue...but, IF we respect the original LIverpool way and want to keep the TRUE Spirit & ethics that Bill Shankly established when he took us out of the 2nd division and built the basis & mentality of what is now a GLOBAL iconic club..best know by the REDS Supporters as much as any player..then in a world of cheatring & lying capitalism & selfish commercialism WE , the supporters MUST fight to own OUR club.
- its OURS- they stole it - if we have any
belief in "YNWA!" we SUPPORTERS must take it over
- we have more than a Million fan base worldwide
- if everybody puts even a LITTLE inside we have enough to grow this club
- Liverpool, match tickets, TV revenues, replica
shirts, souvenirs & related products & services generate OVER 1
BILLION euros/dollars per ANNUM
- There is no reason to have business bankers
or franchisers from USA or anywhere else taking charge (and TAKING PROFIT)
from US
- A professional management could easily turn
our club into a profitable global entity once again dominating local &
global football
www.mypod-net.org/SuperNova.html
www.mypod-net.org/KOP_UNlimited.html
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........
the media NOW start to mention the "protest"
movement but avoid the Issue of SUPPORTERS ownership, 50,000 already registered
and our global network can multiply that x 20 ...@ 500 per share we are
the ONLY solution for the club, and when the media, the "pundits" the yankers
& the bankers , and even some "fickle fans" finally realise that -
we can move away from the stream of mis-informed BS! WE are the club..
if you CARE, get a SHARE! 03 October
at 14:46
Hiya Nane, I am working on it <smile> every
day trying to motivate our global RED Supporters, tell your friends in
Indonesia , Malaysia etc to keep saving , even small money and we will
help you get a share..
.. woy is the wrong man sitting in Rafas seat
....
(I have such a BIG respect for Rafa, and almost
none for a man who was placed in his seat by liars & cheats!)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/liverpool-is-my-home-and-i-will-come-back-2362665.html
There are special times in our history when
off-field events dwarf the on field footy ..Shanks leaving ; his death;
Heysel, HillsBOROUGH ; Kenny departing and...NOW
http://eured.wordpress.com/2010/10/03/liverpool-supernova-is-a-universal-event-the-story-so-far/
'Liverpool is my home and I will come back'
- Soccer, Sport - Independent.ie
www.independent.ie
'Football is a lie.' Anybody who has spent
any time with Rafael Benitez will have heard these words. There are a million
lies in football, a hundred thousand ways for the flimflam men and the
bullshitters to prosper.
________________..all true REDS...
.."first they ignore you"
OUR fan base of GLOBAL REds is in excess of ONE million people - if YOU dont believe that we can OWN Lfc then you dont DESERVE to call yourself a "Liverpool SUPPORTer, maybe the people around you, the media, and some "fans" will tell you it is "impossible" but if Barca, Bayern or Benfica can do it , so can WE..because IF EVER a CLUB was DESTINED to be owned by its Supporters then it is LIVERPOOL
Proposed do's & donts...
- DO BOYCOTT all official/unoffcial LFC products,
merchandise & services, until Supporters ownership is agreed
- DONT insult people or act with violence
- DO wear "We ARE the CLUB" or "Standards
Corrupted" Shirts if YOU have them, otherwise wear a plain BLACK shirt,
whenever possible.
- DONT be distracted by media "rumours" of
financial saviours or G & H etc, it does NOT matter what THEY do, but
what WE do!
- DO tell "rogue traders" (who sell "unofficial"
merchandise) to join this protest - we can bring them in the network in
the future.
- Dont save up in banks - save 10 euros, dollars
or pounds per month @home - the Global REds Credit Union will help you
get your share.
- DO make (peaceful) protests, at stadia,
official shops & against G & H, RBS or Barclays bank branches and
take your money OUT of their hands.
SUPPORTER OWNERSHIP
.a million x 500 Euros or dollars is MORE than
enough to push Lfc into a GOLDEN future instead of the dark times we now
experience..They forced out Rafa ; they ignored our call for Kenny ; we
will force THEM out, and replace Purslow, Proughton and the "pawn" Hodgson
with honest & effective management. The "office" of LFC will HAVE to
co-operate with us eventually, and we are also "ready" to negociate removal
of "yankers & bankers" on OUR terms not theirs.
/WE have thepower to be the "group of people"
that IS the BIG RED GLOBAL family, THIS is a "family concern" (remember
YNWA!) - be concerned ...be involved - be progressive ........... IF you
CARE - get a SHARE! ...
ChriS
BLOG ; http://eured.wordpress.com/
E.L.S.U.N
p.s."First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi
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mr M has a RED car..
mr H says he wants to buy it and turn it into
a sports conversion
mr M agrees to sell the car for 200 quid
mr H borrows 200 quid from the bank, gived
it to mr M , but dont have any money for the "conversion"
but the Car owes the bank (!) the interest
on the loan..and the bank puts a time limit on the loan
sometime later the bank says " the loan /
interest is getting too much - pay it back now.
mr Sx comes along and says "I like that car"
I want to pay for it
its agreed to sell the car to mr Sx
then mr H says "No its my car - and people
want to buy it for more than what mr Sx pay"
but the bank want their money and if mr Sx
pays for it the bank & mr sx are happy
(the car doesnt object, either)
then mr H goes to court to stop the sale
but the contract for the sale of the Car to
mr Sx is decided by the judge as binding
- even if mr H pays the bank, mr Sx will be
declared the legal owner of the car..
or so it seems ! <smile>
p.s except theres a million mechanics in the background who believe they built the car and its theirs! ;) lol
p.p.s. trouble is, mr H neglected the Car & left it out in the rain, and its gone "Rusty RED" ...
11014
Supporters initiative/IS a "class action"
a) This fight is far from over, b) MB & CP are the villians who also damaged our club and C) WE supporters should have acted earlier to own our club, and must get involved (not just 1% of us)
we should (via SoS-SL) who have enough funds to do it - put in our own injunction to ensure OUR interests are protected and If we allow NESV to profit from our income then we really ARE stupid and get what we deserve = NOTHING!
apart from the benefits of combined action
you (media , forums & Kop Faithfu/SoS-SL) should be promoting not only
our protest but that with a global sale of Lfc products, match day, tv
& other services, WE generate an income of over a BILLION, which make
500 quid (even available @ 10 quid a month via credit union?) a BARGAIN
once-in-a-lifetime investment!!!
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although only 1 % of Liverpool supporters
have been "active" so far, we must not allow others to dictate our future
- WE are the club..and need to show it as much now as at any time..WE should
be taking the initiative making OUR claim via an injunction if necessary
to protect OUR club from further abuse, by anyone!
...The" counter claim" ..which indeed is not
but should be a simple injunction to protect our club & global supporters
from further damage/abuse..could include
- the need to protect the community from mis-management
or "fire sale" of arguably a "uniqueworld-famous cultural/heritage site"
(Anfield)
- the varuious claims global supporters have
against the ticket office & other Lfc departments
- non-uk supporters having less benefits than
local supporters/fans despite paying the same for fancards etc
- the overall & detailed damages to our
cliub and global image
- etc etc..
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11013 11h (UK time) RBS wins first round v G & H...
CS>"chelski chappy chairman" martin broughton was only doing his (highly paid) job, and late at that..his & purslows involvement in the false removal of Rafa and some strange dealings casts a shadow..Ayres may be the only "clean player" in this bored-room scenario..and its still likely to be appealed..the words "out of the frying pan" come to mind..& we dont know the 17 millionaires behind J. henry (could be the KKK ,,Bush or Hicks's family for all we know! ;) ..!)
I feel whats come out of all this madness is the lack of ability of ANYOne to manage Lfc & hope the situation is "frozen" -give global support time to continue with plansl, RBS should be backing US now!
IF ONLY(Lfc football supporters Union) SoS-SL
had come together a year earlier (as I proposed in 2008)...because in the
last month only 1% of our million + fan base "walked on"...at all-if
only 10% had acted before now WE would be owning the club (our club!)
take care, fellow (true ) REDS ..with hope...
http://eured.wordpress.com
IMO, a simple injunction to freeze the club finance on the grounds of mis-management,(in the interests of the supporters & community at large) investigate all concerned -whilst register the 50-100,000 fans & celebrities collect their funds and start the Supporters tale-over..its simple BUT needs proper co-ordination and I am not in LP..
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CS>friday 1 october and I am HUNTing for those
Supporters who make this a RED OCTOBER, and the "fans" who act like c*nts..
http://eured.wordpress.com
AND HERE IS A MESSAGE TO THOSE
in the "CIA" who block, disrupt or lose my Blog, messages, or emails
etc...
...............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
Who are the enemy?
sometimes itd easier to define & deal with
those who openly oopose, than y-our "friends"
- the "cia" excuse me but they are the C*nts
Idiots & A**holes who are basically evil & negative who want to
stop any creativity and individual initiative
- the people who are conned by "propaganda"
of the "CIA" ...
- those who "mass-debate" whilst the world
goes down the toilet - they are the ones that stood by whilst the romans
enslaved or anhilated 2 million people 2000 years ago and then started
"religion" or watched as gestapo thugs took away whole families to totour
or gas chambers, or todayt allow the "New World Order" to dictate that
you shoudl swallow the pollution of the planet & the minds of y-our
children by banality, bling and commercial obsession,
"dont rock the boat" ChriS?..guess what?, the poltical/business Titanic has sunk, (they are folling you still whilst playing music on the top deck) you can help launch a LIFE(LIVER)boat though,,,
Hugo (NL) "I know its home sweet home and nostalgic but a club like LPool should have a stadium of 80K+...! And with the people there i know every week it still will be sold out!
CS>
" But we can make more by global sales of
LiverBird products ..1 million fan base and a potential 6 million buyres
of our stuff worlwide!!!
- Anfield should stay as it is - with the
financial meltdown coming (will affect your company too?) a full ...anfield
is the best HOME advantage for our players and spend profit on the team..(big
stadiums never have the same feeling, and thats as much part of Liverpool
as any aspect we want to retain) ..good luck with Twente, cya sometime..
FC Twente are great lads within that sphere,
thats ok for Twente, but we are LIVERPOOL , we are GLOBAL...dont apply
"normal" to us, we MADE football history...we are (still) the most succesful
team in the history of the most important ...league of the most important
game(culture) in the world..
the magic of anfield cant be transferred ,
too many spirits , too many ghosts..too many memories of overcoming the
impossible..& souvenirs of the man who made it possible; Shanks..
the "coach" has got flat tires,...
your media only tells you a little bit of the
truth and fills the dutch & the rest of the world with rumour &
gossip..
the TRUTH is that the owners are frauds ,
and the chairman & MD was placed on the board against the wishes &
interests of supporters..
they forced Rafa out when they had no "authority"
to do so, and 95% wanted Kenny to replace him, instead they appointed a
YES-man!
we wont solve the probalems On the field until
we solve them OFF the field..this is RED October ...;)
In the day before the "flooding" I had a drink of the "hooch" (home-made
"Rakia") the neighbours made, after I had been for a run,
so I gave them a "Stara P t-shirt ; (Lfc Serbia/Baklkan REDS) the
old boy was "made up".
I went out to "delboys" and had a bit of a head when I met the owners
the next morning to list
my "complaints" before I cut the lawn for the last time...I had
told them about the smoke
.........from the neighbours ("distillery") "nema problema!
wtrh them, but I was annoyed
the previous thurday I had left all the doors / windows open to
air the Living room
- to dry out after the flood.the smoke was filling the room.(by
the way I had to turn the electric heater on all night when I came back
from my weekend in Liverpool)
Flood- There was minor water damage to some of the furniture, I
was worried about my laptop because of the damp, I hope it now works ok..
Bathroom -The water system doesnt always flush & I have to sometimes
run the tap water (maybe an air pocket in the system) and some of the grouting
(between the tiles) has worn out and I had some problems with insects but
I cleaned regularly with disinfectant and at the moment no big problems
there.
Door- - small problems - but the leaky window is a CONCERN, they
promised to fix.I offered
to help the son (free) as he was studying business advice
Broughton Gillett and Hicks OUT: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/8026467/Liverpool-manager-Roy-Hodgson-defends-fans-right-to-protest-following-Sunderland-draw.html
Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson backs fans' right to protest following
Sunderland draw
www.telegraph.co.uk
Liverpool 2 Sunderland 2
?? -BS! thats NOT what he was saying the day before the game! ..he's
employed by "spinners" ..and its like Purslow is writing his script - after
9000 protest, lets "agree" ..complete BS!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_2yKTqztBM&feature=player_embedded#!
http://mypod-net.org/SuperNova.htm
(REd october; blackshirts strategy)
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5-a-side (zwolle) ...........another EURED
charity event to organise in Monty???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-_eLxJM4_c
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Nane sent me a message "in this msg i personaly want to thanks n
appreciating ur effort for LFC, but in fact i have enough cash to buy a
share which i trully care. Indonesia is not a rich country, might not as
person to person, but as a group we might be.. And im hope that with every
peny that we're collecting each games in each city would useful on ur campaign..
Gudluck n thx again chris
Lfc 1(kyriakos)(-2 blackpool
I replied ; thanks but please dont pray
for new owners, its yOUR money that funds the club, so pressure LFC &
the bankers to work with us, its taken 2 years to get SoS/SLfc organised
and what we need now is the million + global fans to get behind a supporter
take over...wake up and realise this is the oNE chance in our history to
achieve this, if ever a CLUB should BE OWNED by its supporters it is LIVERPOOL
FOOTBALL CLUB>>>
protest & join the global REDS supporter
take-over..this is y-our time!
"Oh Campione
The one and ONLY
we're liverpooooolll
...we are gonna take it over and kick you
out the door
the GLOBAL RED supporters gonna make it like
before"
"IF YOU CARE - buy a share" Support Global
REDS via E.L.S.U.N
the story so far ; www.mypod-net.org/SuperNova.html
Increasing amount of time on Blog, editing, faceboog, groups, reading
forums & article etc etc
and arguing , correcting the media BS , day aftre day, hour after
hour..
They forced out Rafa ; they ignored our call for Kenny ; we will force THEM out, and replace Purslow, Proughton and the "pawn" Hodgson with honest & effective management. The "office" of LFC will HAVE to co-operate with us eventually, and we are also "ready" to negociate removal of "yankers & bankers" on OUR terms not theirs.
I loaded up RED October Strategy - part 1..."first
they ignore you"
...if YOU CARE, get a SHARE! BLOG ; http://eured.wordpress.com/
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi ;) *
When I was captain of a local footy team in england my then manager
was Graham; and I "seached" &
found him on facebook! and we discussed his maybe coming to Monty
for his birthday (20 oct)
and I wanted him to stay for a long weekend to give us time to talk
about our relevant his-stories
and have a good old "boys night out" ..but although he at first
seemd keen, his "lady" must
have objected because he made an excuse about "relationship problems"
and bowed out without
any more contact!
"so many changes since I last saw you, apart from my "memoirs" (book)
being sort of "serialised" on the blog http://eured.wordpress.com/
<smile> you cant wind me up about Lfc ..if you read my blog,
the last thing I care about now is the "on field performances" we have
started a RE(d)Volution to take over the club by the supporters , and in
the worst way, the defeats are actually helping our cause,.,..sort of "cruel
to be kind" effect..
so you must be "rich" with tickets for Chelski..I wanted ar*e-nal
to win that one..im not a gunners fan, but being a RED
and back with my socialist roots I want the "rent boys" to get beat, and
generally want see all money-clubs like Chelski,
man Ure, Real Madrid & so on in demise..
Barca, Bayern & benfica are supporter-owned, and if ever there
was a club that should be owned by its supporters it is Liverpool..."end
of rant" <smile>
pity you arent coming - I was a bit surprised when you indicated
you would come over- most peoiple are scared of spending time with me!
<smile> ...i am too radical for them and they also cant keep up, when
I really "party" ....maybe that "gutache" is a sympton of worry, &
your spirit needs a break from "surroundings" I often found moving away
for a while gave me a fresh perspective, butr now i am a virtual "gypsy"
<smile>
...sorry that you have problems but at least you have a "permanent
home" & friends?...
I am alone, everyone has gone, no family or long-lasting (true) friendship..but
on the positive side I dont answer to ANYOne..(not sure if I ever did..probably
you were the last person on this earth to give me "orders" that I "obeyed"
) ha ha ha ..maybe thats why I wanted so much to see you again..and have
a "boys party"...share some of this incredibly wild & beautiful country...if
you cant leave your "wife" bring her too if she has a nice younger sister?
take care Graham, get well & be well..lifes too short for bullsh*te!"
To "anon" (FB) "you & ally can contest that ..but my opinion is that we are all responsible for each other in this fight..and..I will ABSOLUTELY support & sponsor & participate in positive action for supporter ownership and protest - and that means consequent protest including boycotts that hurt them and are un comfortable to us like staying away from the games & walk-outs etc, and target those responsible, there are enough of them, gandhi proved that a mass of co-ordinated non-violent (more courageous) action will stop even the biggest empire , (virtually brought down the british empire to a stanstill) and that was with out the internet ;) ...the facts are true without using basic abuse, but I can accept that but thwn you start talkign about familes you tread dangerous areas and "do unto others"..comes to mind..
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I moved on wed 06 oct ..sorry jacqui - R.I.P
(30 years anniversary) & me !
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because ON tues 5 oct I was RAIN FLOODED....
Captain MONTGOMERY (MONTY") team wins Ryder
cup for EUROPE at CELTIC manor...beating the USA!!!
and "Monty"(Montenegro) is leading the "RE(d(Volution..the
only safe and honest future is Supporter owned Lfc - all the rest is a
short trem "fix" dont be fooled again..."The spinners, yankers & bankers
NOW call deomonstrati...ng True REDS "OIKs" ; yep ; we are ORGANISED INTERNATIONAL
KOPITES, <SMILE>...if YOU CARE..get a SHARE!... /-"First they ignore
you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma
Gandhi ;)
CS http://eured.wordpress.com/
pg, "Monty"..
I went to a cafe as the rooms were flooded by rain water, and I had
to leave a radiator on &
as the TV & net had "blown" (literally the Tv exploded when
the rain water had seeped into
the wiring in the wall by the leaking window - I had used a lot
of towels & bed clothes to
soak up the flooding, I took my laptop to a cafe in the centre and
a girl there helped me find
rooms, smaller but more central, and DRY, with Wifi for the Net.
the owner hadnt repaired the
leak that I had told him about teh previous weekend, (and emailed
hima bout weeks before)
lucky there was not MORE damage to my belongings, and "priceless"
souvenirs etc (some 40 years old!)
I wrote to Jan O K> (FB)..ah well we always pay for the good times,
one way or another eh?..early in the week there was a rain/storm, and although
I had complained to the owner about a leak in the living room window frame,
he hadnt sorted it, it literally fell down monday night and despite mopping
and "sand bagging" with towels & bed sheets I couldnt stop it as it
was rainign heavy almost 24hrs (the street was like a river) ..
i had to sleep a coupel of hours and int he morn..the carpet was
soaked, the owner said he would sort it, but as I had to make a decisiion
to save my stuff (including my beloved collection of Lfc match programmes
going back to the "good old days" ..I have changed accomodation, ferrying
my stuff by taxi, I am sorted now, but I missed this weekends invite to
go to the Italian Reds annual meeting in Florence..anyway , I am off to
the pub "nags head" ..(got pics of delboy & rodney on the wall) monetengro
playing the swiss tonight so the local fans probably in their later, so
I can soak up a bit of 2nd hand atmosphere...well if theres anything i
have left out (lol) its on my blog... eured.wordpress.com ! have a great
weekend kidder! x
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There are a section of mis guided & ill-informed "fans" and as BIll
Shankly ("Shanks") was my mentor I get angry when people FAIL "in his name"...
"Some call themselves SPIRIT of SHANKLY?
...I have to say, quite Frankly
that I think its a CRIME
(i 'll try to make this rhyme!)
apart from a march
& a concert @ St. George's hall
they have not done fecking much at ALL
Bill would have taken control
taken foes by scruff of the neck
the People's man had courage
by fecking heck!
Suppoters who claim "We are the Club"
let me tell you..
this is the rub..
Its up to global REDS to take command
not some brief, some lawyer,
or other hand..
his Spirit lives, heres my tip...
in HIS name fight for (full) Owner-ship
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I made this point on my blog before, I coulnt understand what seemed
to me to be an "engineered" panic...although I dont want ANY owner other
than our own supporters, I cant see how Mills can come int the frame..
IF my house or car was re-possesed, for non payment of a loan and
then sold to someone else, and I turn up afterwards and try to get the
car or housxe back form the new owner to by paying the loan (late)
after a court had confirmed the sale - I cant imagine anyone having any
truck with me..
IF Mills succeed , i would recommmend EVERYONE in the world who
has ever had a car or house re-possed when they were skint going back &
contesting ...over to you Mr smartass!
...and...
....often...the best form of defence is attack- I wanted evryone to join the global REDS supporters injunction/"class action" V Hicks & all our foes..
and on Kop Unlmited ; Shanks ARK group..."through wind & rain...WE ARE THE CLUB! http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=183999854031
Everton boss David Moyes was being interviewed about how the rebuilding of his team was progressing.
"How far do you think you are from a European
Cup-winning team?" asked one reporter. "About half a mile", replied Moyes.
;D
WE had a lot of rain, which isnt so bad, as I really felt inclined
to monitor the "takeover" and court battles concerning Lfc..and I added
to my "Reflections"
(a "compact" version my life's story) reflections part 2 36-56(
send to M) - http://mypod-net.org/Reflections.html
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(14th Oct) Texan Hicks & his buddy have
just been "smacked" in the london high court - all these fraudsters made
in the USA,..
"land of the fr..AUD! & home of
the....cheats & liars"..this is the result of the "USA's selfish, step
onanyone to get what you want"
american dream,..now a NIGHTMARE for the world...!
I kept pushing a simple injunction to freeze
the club finance on the grounds of mis-management,(in the interests of
the supporters
& community at large) investigate all
concerned -whilst register the 50-100,000 fans & celebrities collect
their funds and start the
Supporters tale-over..its simple BUT needs
proper co-ordination and I am not in LP..
The court events & takeover "drama" overshadowed
the "Monty REDS" getting a defensive but hard won & deserved result
@ wembley
england 0- Montenegro (monty) 0
eng-er-lund v monty REDS 0-0 I celebrated with the locals and gave a fan
my YNWA t-shirt
-Hungover the next morning , but I am MADE
up for the good local lads, with ehom I celebrated their well won point
@ wem-ber-ly
last night , hey Fabio Capello (& Woy)
THATS a passionate & MOTIVATED team for you, from a land with
a populatio of less than half
of merseyside!
20e drinks
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AAV"(FB) told me about the people in Monty that she thinks they are
really patriarchal, they are friendly and polite, but a bit reserved..
& the ladies want to always look like fashion models but Montenegro
is very very interesting country, and they are interesting people,
but AA wouldn't like to live there, she asked about MY dreams..I
asked hers and she said shestarted learning English when 4 and her whole
life wanted to go to England, and felt like she belongs there, you
know.. so her biggest dream is to live in England
:)) And would like to be rich, "and who knows maybe buy the thing
I love most one day, LFC :D, But that's just a dream :))
CS>....do you know the film "pulp fiction" ?...the character "Jules"
..at the end what he decides to do? in 1995 i woke up from a coma,
and decided not to continue my "business life"..because I had got
a "new chance"...so i do this, if you re...ad my blog it tells you
what I do..in my first life I organised new ventures, networked
enterprises around half the world and connected people & since 1995
I do something similar but not for money, as a volunteer, I promote
Lfc, organise REds meetings start new clubs and try to support
people with their "dreams"....but only if I like them...as I do
it by choice not for money, not for profit..but because i can..I live
modestly , I am not rich...("and I suggest that you DONT want to
be rich , maybe you want a lifestyle similar to rich people...?")
anyway, I like the thoughts on AAV's wall..so she may not want my
help? :)
took abreak from constant "Lfc" and watched an unusual filem starring
Kevin Bacon (he is "disturbed" but still gets the girl!) and
fried green onions,.film with kathy bates, the lass from "weeds"
& blond;mary stuart masterson?the late jessica tandy..not bad!
completed the content of (now blocked BLOG);
http://eured.wordpress.com/2010/10/10/title-no-go-flo-so-continuing-story-of-life-of-brian-on-the-titmanic-beware-of-jaws/
(and sat in the sun in the nearby Karver park & had a snack
to collect my thoughts,after too much time writing)
...
almost everyone thinks I am a spy, so thats
what I say now when asked why I am here, people are "friendly" but I have
only been invited into one home in the collective time , this year a total
of 8 months in "Monty" ..so although friendly there is a mistrust of "aliens"
- I dont see any negros in montenegro...
the ladies are beautiful but I only see very
young, dressed either like fashion models or (excuse me) "prossies" ..they
act as if they are "available" but reaklly I think they are nuns in disguise
(lol) ..
cars are king and are parked everywhere ,
and often block the pathways and imageis very important , obviously rich
people are adored, but i think they want to secretly be themselves but
are too insecure, its a challenge here, I have had some disputes..people
breaking promises and I am not used to their "spontaneous" aspect
(its ironic if I say that they tell me sunday
if we are to meet saturday - the day before! <smile> ...but its different
for me, The Balkans is the only part of europe I didnt know before..so
...its an adventure..but I will need to have a pause - I probably will
visit REDS in Beograd & sKOPje in december because it will not be much
fun to be here in pg at xmas, I fear..
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to SS ref S47 (owner)
firstly I find it (typically) AMZING how "property owners" are SO quick when they WANT something, but how many delays did I have before you responded to MY complaints?
not least have you forgot any humanity,????
you have made no apologies for anyof the problems your neglect caused
- no care about my health, ONE reason I was interested to stay in
warmer climate (such as Balkans) was due to regular attacks of bronchitis
each winter, and the rain/storm flooding of the aparrtment ; causing damp
in the living & bed room is a risk.
- no care about damage to 40 year old valuable souvenir "collectors
items"
- no care about damp/condensation causing damage to my Laptop
ref Tv.
- I have paid promptly any tv / internet bills
- you ask for 30 euros BUT when I arrived you told me the cost was
TWENTY euros per month
THUS I have OVERpaid (total 120 e ) when it should be e100!!! -
you owe me e20 for that too
ref electricity
I worked on the garden at your request becuase your son was absent
and could not make the "promised cut " each 10 days..
- I do not pay "for the house" - the neighbours have no meter???
- you gave me wrong invoices in the past!!!
(how do I know this copy is correct?)
- extra electricity caused by cutting the grass -
for your benefit!
you owe me over 100 euros for the my belongings that you keep (I asked you to pass to Nenad, but you did not)
I also RESERVE a counter-claim for 500 euros in case its proven that damage to my Laptop is caused by the damp/condensation (through rain/storm flooding the living room)
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some nice friday nights @ "delboys" since I have been back in the Pg "Centar"..
"sometimes I wanna run for cover,sometimes
I want to SCREAM!
No I don't claim to be a wiseman,a poet or
a saint,
I'm just another man who's searching for a
better way..
But my heart beats loud as thunder for the
things that I believe, "
I got a nice message from ????? ?????????? (s-KOP-Je,
where we played Rabotniki early this season in Europa league qualification!)
"Hope you can come here again, that would be
really nice and we expect you Chris again this winter"
...so i hope we can get other balkan REDs together
& weet ..december??? & organise a reds party around the "holy-days"..
:)
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Ellun/NAG..keep on fighting (Ellen)..the best
way to protect kids is to stop people participating in the BS...from education
to school, to business to "courts" where winning is more important than
truth..
people should stop focussing on appealing
to or via their system, make own media, oppose at every opportunity , refuse
to participate, boycott and all available non-violent obstruction, inc
no-taxes & risk of detention..
and..you arent likely to be an "honorary"
RED if you post jokes about Liverpool supporters on my wall! ..i stop smiling
when ever discussing my absent kids and the apathy of 99.99% of people
who dont do a thing to improve the world they live in! ..
--
OB>"we are both seta. but not in the same time. luckily.
jewish people say: when you think that there is no way out, there are
always 4 solutions! hm.."
CS>i am what my deceased wife called a "cynical optimist" ..I realise that many things seem impossible, I know the mountains that needed to climb are too slippery, with a weight on my back..but Ill start climbing anyway, theres a saying in my culture "when you go through hell, keep going" ..enjoy yourself! x
Todays society western europe is pro-female,
I had 54 complaints at levels of court, when I won she disappeared and
the police do nothing, she moves to another country i start all over again,
and the police do nothing, i have been to all levels of court, started
organisations all across europe , researched and chased across europe//and
the authorities do nothing, I have been to ECHR (strasbourg) hague &
EU parliament and they do nothing..why? because fathers are not seen as
"victims" by western society..even though 25 / 1 complaints are by men..so
mothers realise that they can do what they want and no policeman in western
europe /USA etc will ever arrest them for breaking a custody agreement
or court order!
and society ingeneral dont care that 25-30,000
kids die every day so why expect society to care that my child is stolen?
Maybe Noela will never know me, but anyway
no one can replace what i lost not being a father to her.,
so i spend my energy on other, only someone
who has the same can understand.i ts nothing to do with bravery,
its about care & empathy without sympathy,
i just want other people to learn not to do it;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00vcpbp/Law_in_Action_What_next_for_the_family_courts/
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wed 20 Oct is G PENNYfather's b-day!!!
--
Despite all the "fear-less" warrior -like confrontation, I have
been really hurt when I let anyone get too close, or i get close to them..
the last (Dutch blond) girlfriend I had ripped me off..very nasty
girl who even came as witness with me when I tried to find Noela but turned
against me..
earlier this year another woman who was involved in the "parents"
movement wanted to visit me, but when I said I cant "guarantee" anything..she
got cold feet..
whatever I am, I am the same entity as I was before &
shall be ..whilst I am alive, good or bad, this is me..
(one of my favourite songs = "honesty" by B. Joel)
--
(I returned my own passport to B-liar in 98 in protest & lived
5 years without a national ID, thats another story..
-IMO "when all about you are losing their heads"
YES hodgson must go, now, but the intelligent thing to do is put Kenny
in charge, right now, as he knows the club inside out, has "done it" before
(won the english league 4 times with Lfc &
Blackburn where Rh failed!) ..and knows the internal "politics" & players
)
would be difficult for someone like frank
to just come in to the most demanding job in footy, hope I am wrong..
and some one fresh makes us great again, because
we need a positive imrovement on & off the field..)i would rather
wait for Rafa (who proved his class again
for Inter V Spurs in Champions league )
Benitez inherited a squad which was weak and
turned it into europes best (2 Cl finals , semi & qrt finals in 5 seasons)
and the best league position in 20 years!
Hansen knows about as much as RH, all these
ex players, good on the park, but could not hack it at the highest level
of management , so go into (easy) media!
http://tomkinstimes.com/2010/10/crisis-part-one-hypocrisy-hodgson/
INTER MILAN winning 4-0 v spurs at half-time It was just like Rafas REDS "on song"...
watched / read continually Lfc on net including lfctv/rawk, and buid
up to the game in Napoli (had been impossible to get there from
Monty, but heard of RED mates getting stabbed in Naples before the
game)
watched on RTCG 2 TV ; Napoli 0 - Lfc 0
(jonjo Good! lane , pepe, skrtel, kelly, =Gd!
Ng, spear,fabio =ok bab, carra, sotos, konch, cole, poul.. =hmmm)
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Tues 19 oct) I had dreams about gaye (girlfriend when I was 20-something)
..living together,arguement..then searching for (my daughter)
Noela in various parts of some massive toy-games adventure park,
with towers , and ..big problems finding (adopted daughter)
Sarah..or Noela, they sort of merged,
at the top "tower 7"..Sarah/Noela were lost, frustration..then I
woke up!
WED 20 October ..more dreams
I remember, in the first dream my german ex girlfriend was pannicking
about having a baby , the last thig she said before I woke up was
"my waters broke" , i went back to sleep and had a longer film about
leading a bus load of "activists" across n.est europe until
some government messenger stopped the leading car i was in with
a different female partner, who seemed more warm and close,
although i cant see her face, the messanger told me that the
charity house we were travelling to had been sold by the govt to a girl
i fancied some time before..<smile> ...then i woke up ..!
I had some email/FB message exchanges this month with OB & NAG..
(above Noela with abductress margit)
To explain that Noela was 3 -on 28 november will be 9, , and that
yes, i AM bitter, and often mistrust (rightly) the reasons people
ask me about my losses, they want to "talk" about it..re-assure
me, which they cant, because I have been active on these subject
since 10 years or more and the problems are deeply routed
in society, media bias and apathy, fear & greed rule, and I especially
sick & tired of people setting up "services" that mere end up
in more meetings , discussions and "fame" for those who appear in the media
..and actually are NEGATIVE.....because they suck people into thinking
they are actually improving and distract the potential of
confronting the problems of society and actively changing them..!!
NAG feels haunted about her loss, crying for both of us. asked how
she can actively change things, Sometimes its just a small comfort
to exchange with someone who has the same pain & "feelings"..
I fight them many ways, the "art of war" when you are small is surprise.
.so I wont tell U, as "they" almost certainly fear anyone who dares
stand up and say "no" , I told her "good luck with ECHR!"
I want NAG to win, but. in a way rather expose their hypocrisy too
(sorry NAG!) 12 years I battled with the ECHR they gave me
a "case number" then turned it down on a "technicality" (basically
germoney palyed ping-pong with my files and the ECHR betrayed
their promise to allow my direct complaint..its run by lawyers &
political/busines interest, need I say more ..
I usually go to Liverpool when I go back to GB..not only for footy but because there are more HUMAN(e)s there than anywhere else
i am not in Bar (its just in my culture to live in a place called
"bar" is really funny..I am staying in Pg (capital of "Monty")
..and I really dont want to be here at heart of winter, xmas &
new year, because I am alone, and this is no place to be alone
@ "family time/party time" ..
people here dont usually invite "aliens" to home parties , and as
I lost my own family I want to go somewhere where I know
more people (well at least more "facebook friends" are in N. Sad
& Beograd)
what am i searching fo? .. here or anywhere on this planet, same as always ;, intelligent life ..but also that "cares"!
OB>" wrote a letter this morning from work and lost it somehow????(more
comms problems!)"the upcoming part of the year is the most critical due
to feeling of loneliness, I understand what you wanted to tell.
yes, Cacak is my hometown, about 200kms on the north from
border with Montenegro. small town, nothing special. Belgrade is near enough
for editional contents. but...Novi Sad is my favorite place :) so,
if you can choose place to stay during the winter, it could be right choice.
Possible that we could stay few days there from january 4 to orthodox cristmas.
don't try to find the english word for seta, I think you can't find
it, even your language has 10x more words.
it's part of specific orient heritage and sensibility, a mixture
of nostalgy, sadness, reconciliation, wisdom at heart :)
pls wait to find something....SEta is a creative eotion - dont worry"
(OB may also be "cia-censored?) for contact with a REBEL like me?>?
, very thoughful..there a lot of depth in the humour..
(see Utube...FB links to THe galaxy song & G. Chapmans funeral)
@Ellen, In a world that doesnt care if 25000 or more kids die every
day, we ALL need to do what is RIGHT,openly with courage, for the kids
& everyone, theres just a simple lack of care & honesty, and if
people , ALL people acted honestly instead of being greedy, scared or feeding
their own personal bias we could start to improve all matters (inc
ther problems of kids)
the articles of the universal declaration of human rights, which
is simple to learn should be the FIRST thing children learn (at home! before
school) and NOT the LAST thing that officials apply at court or government..or
anywhere else!
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wrote to "New Yanks boss"and then Fb messages blocked (again)
BS on LFC tv ..all clips f*cked
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wrote g.marcotti??? about Tomkins article (Hodsgon-hypocrisy)
I took a Lfc (save) T-shirt to Slavko.."birthday
boy" owner of "delboys"
( wow! on Lfc.tv..this is anfield ..some
"anti woy" creeping in..?)
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most of the people reading about poverty &
child fatalities on the net, "tut tut" and even send money etc , and think
they "care"
..the truth is by contributing via commercial/materiam
accumulation, ebergy excess and waste of resources ,
99.9% of "the west" led by USA are to blame...your
taxes fund government & business explaoitation of the "third world"
and the growth of the rich, at the expense
of the growing divide of the poor, making it almost a "crime" to "have
not"
..teaching kids to tread all over anyone
in the rush to have the best material assets, IMAGE and "bling"..few are
innocent,
change your world before you can change THE
world..
edited ... http://eured.wordpress.com/2010/10/16/hes-not-the-mesiah-hes-a-very-naughty-boy-heroes-villans-of-the-story-11016-so-far/
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(on sat 16 OCT I was offline again & new
Pword was needed (FB blocked continually since I BLOGGED "heroes &
villians"..on http://eured.wordpress.com
Rabid weekend watching hodgons "derby capitualation"
@ everton with veli & Jank (Yank-go?)..
"in association with E.L.S.U.N. ; EuRED Liverpool
Supporters (overseas) , UNION Network ; "Balkan REdS" & "ZReDS"
and to better
organise & support all Global Reds,
individuals, groups, (UNofficial) supporters club & Lfc fan groups
- we are inviting members
(if they have not PREVIOUSLY done so) to jon
"Ko(0)p UNltd ; Shanks' ARK ("All Red Kop") ..IMO this SHALL progress true
Global REdS ownership & resolving of various complaints,equal rights;
credit union; travel & ticket issues, etc etc "
join @ the link on the wall
administrators or other friends , please translate
into your preferred language and add to OUR E.L.S.U.N "balkan REdS" wall..
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"When I'm deep inside of me
don't be too concerned.
I won't ask for nothin' while I'm gone."
(Billy Joel "Honesty")
sun 24 oct
Liverpool 2 Bburn 1
(Sotos & Torres)
I got up early on this sun-day and went for
a run..
washed my clothes & the watched "Big match
build up" on Lfc,TV
and Lfc forums then the game on the NET..
(someone reminded me of that line from the
bEatles song
"I read the news today,4000 holes in Blackburn
, Lancashire")
& the discussions ..
Gerry Marsden raised the crowd with "YNWA"
before the game,greeting
new yanks boss Warner" (broughton singing
too ho ho ho!)
It was clear that the team was ignoring hodgsons
style and it looked
more like a "Rafa Team" playing higher up
the park and pressing, faster tempo
controlling the game, a lot of chances Sotos
& Lucas men of the match
and Torres lookign sharper again taking his
goal confidently.
The next days obviously media praise going
to RH!!! , but how hypocrtical they
are again...the mainstream buddie of woy blaming
rafa because hodgson had
only won one game in the PL so far..and now
despite them playing more as
Benitez would its "woys turning corners" what
a JOKE, even then 95% of
core supporters wanted hodgson gone, his manner,
his selections, his
blaming the kids, not defending Torres to
"buddy" Ferguson, his "winning
at goodison is utopia" comments (even though
Rafa had done it the previous 3 times!)
and especially RH lost true REDS when he criticised
our "protests" against
the Texan fraudsters !...
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I needed a laugh after this continual media lobby for hodgson, and
so had a couple of evenings on "Mock the week" Frankie Boye, John
Bishop,
"Have I got news for you" Ed. Izzard & so on..
__________________________
Decided to try to have a run at least every other day as some of
the
pics from the "Balkan Reds" meetings in sKOPje
& Stara P. showed me to be a bit "heavy"
As we come to the end of this "HUNT for RED
October" I am considering
"general possibilities" perhaps to know if & how I could
encourage
orphaned , poor or disadvantaged children/teenagers, whats
been done
here , and what could be done, in co-operation with local people?
I seem to have picked up a coupel of "followers" on "Twit-er!!"
*EuRED09"
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just a brief "Happy birthday" to Tijana ( girlfiend Ivan of
"Lfc Serbia/Balkan REdS meetings)
seen here reluctantly hugged by a "heavy" version of the EuRED co-ordinator (CS)
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Lfc 2 (Sotos , Torres ) Bburn 1 (Carra OG) H-T 0-0
Lots of chances Sotos M-o-M (the black-haired
Sami!!) @ both ends ref should have given us 1 or 2 pens for fouls
on Sotos, fluid (forward) movement from midfield Mereles , Lucas &
SG ; apart from their goal Defence looked solid, Torres sharper (got
better support), and Cole assisted well for the goal, Shelvey deserved
to come on late..BUT, all credit for the result ....happier team, players
took responsibility ..(away from RH?) ..but we are still in relegation
zone and were a bit nervous in the last 10 mins, against a poor Bburn team,
their team only in 17th place ..played at Anfield, keep perspective..dont
get carried away we are far from the form we need ; WE are LIVERPOOL!..
hodgson dares talk about the likes of TORRES
leaving...RH needs reminding that TORRES is MOUCH more loyal than Hodgson,
is loved by Supporters and Tores shows he cares about Fans...
i have to laugh at the title text - its "RH's men when they win"? ..the media blamed Rafa for losses, yet 95% of core supporters blame hodgson for the poor results until now..seems like the players followed "Rafa style" pressing & closing dow high up the field "a la Benitez"..
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@Liverpool Echp>the texans gone & if Thicks want to attempt a claim if got a list to go to court against them with! ...but these are new "yankee suits" filling the board ("bored" ? ) ...
where are SoS-Sl and the supporters fund, which has taken too long to set up?..we should still use it challenge JH for our share..its still a mistake to think its "all over"..dont be fooled again!!
these may just a bit cleverer in their PR than G & H...
now 95 % want RH to go, and with reason, we cant wait , if it was ONLY about results on the field fair enough,we could back him if he showed some class & loyalty - but his attitude is not LIVERPOOL quality..
yes the players have to fight for the shirt, but hodgson just doesnt fit the job, and he was placed there by those who forced out Rafa...
bad karma ?...anyway, I shall continue the boycott until all those associated with the old regime are gone, 3 down 2 (broughton & RH) to go, but soon,PLEASE, because if we want to have anything like a decent season Kenny should take over until a long term solution is decided upon..
trouble is these suits know about as much about
footy as G & H (or the media "pundits" who do nothing but spout their
biased "spin" ..)
RAWKJdJ >Would love to hear a few rounds of Rafa-Rafael tomorrow and a banner about the 2nd epic swindle of the year being perpetrated by the media blaming our current woes on Rafa.
Don't really care if it's showing a lack of respect of Hodgson - the gloves are off, this is too important. We're in danger of allowing a conclusion to be arrived at where by all of our current on the field problems are down to Rafa and all we need to do is unpick everything he worked towards and we're be back on track. That conclusion will ruin this club, absolutely ruin it. We'll turn it from something we're proud of, that the whole of Europe feared again to something ugly, generic and horrible and something we don't believe in. So no, Alan Hansen isn't entitled to his opinion when he says Rafa's to blame and no Souness isn't entitled to his opinion when he says we're in the worst state since 1959 and no Hodgson isn't entitled to his opinion when he talks about inheriting a mess - we were moving in the right direction under Rafa, a mindless lurch to an English philosophy of all things will do as much damage to this club as Hicks and Gillet did. The result will be the same - we won't compete on the pitch.
knee jerk exageration? he played well in most games, but not yet tested in "big games" Sotos shows commitment too - but maybe seems extreme because several others have been off form this season ?...Pepe is wityhout doubt the most committed player to the team, & Torres (when fully fit & on form) is the most danergous striker in the Wordl....no, calm down!...no player ever is that good to be an "automatic choice" for Lfc, maybe your real name os Woy? <smile> this is isnt fulham ...WE are LIVERPOOL
A Day in the Life Lyrics
Artist(Band):The Beatles
Review The Song (24) Print the Lyrics
"A Day in the Life"
(Lennon/McCartney)
I read the news today oh boy
About a lucky man who made the grave
And though the news was rather sad
Well I just had to laugh
I saw the photograph
He blew his mind out in a car
He didn't notice that the lights had changed
A crowd of people stood and stared
They'd seen his face before
Nobody was really sure
If he was from the House of Lords.
I saw a film today oh boy
The English Army had just won the war
A crowd of people turned away
but I just had to look
Having read the book
I'd love to turn you on
Woke up, fell out of bed,
Dragged a comb across my head
Found my way downstairs and drank a cup,
And looking up I noticed I was late.
Found my coat and grabbed my hat
Made the bus in second splat
Found my way upstairs and had a smoke,
and Somebody spoke and I went into a dream
I read the news today oh boy
Four thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire
And though the holes were rather small
They had to count them all
Now they know how many holes it takes to fill
the Albert Hall.
I'd love to turn you on
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NAG>25 October at 20:28 Report
just noticed that you have now asked P. Adams to friend request me???
She had no interest when I deleted her months ago, did not even bother
to ask me why?
I am fighting the British Goveernment for abusing my family and child.
Now this???? I do not recall these people helping me with my fight with
the RCJ, in fact they did nothhing and NOW it is you must join us.....
we will groom you to do what we want... do i look like a victim. just remembered
I am black, so I must be one. This is the BRITISH way of thinking.
I ask you you age you ignore me. you then tell me I must put up my
personal pics on fb, because you have...
oh yes i do recall why you deleted me before, because i posted on your
wall and i note people post on your wall and you do not delete them!!!!
CS>you just proved my point why evil wins..
U attack me, because I suggested P. Adams, ? am I supposed to KNOW you have a problems with her, and now, with me?
americans have manners>,,yeh after they steal everything from you they say thank you??
USA has taught the world to be greedy and violently step on anyone to get what you want..? they "help" the third world (as long as they can sell big cars big macs & microsoft to them...
oh so now its th "black issue"..maybe I disagree with you becuase thats my honest opinion, maybe you dont know that I was often the only white face in parties organised by "blacks" when I was fighting against the violations of all "foreigners" rights when I lived in "germoney" ..the place where they stole everything = the germans love americans - and stole my kids too!
is your "age-ist" question of me any better type of prejudice??
I entioned my pictures so you can see who I
am..not how old I am..
but obviously it is YOU that is "prejudiced"
because I AM "older"???
i didnt IGNORE you, I asked you WHY you needed to know my age..so get it RIGHT before you have a go,,
and BTW - when someone puts something on my wall, without asking or that I dont agree with I ALWAYS remove it or delete them
so go and BS with someone else, and dont play the "friends" thing with me, because you are NOT "honest"..after all your just a woman..and "honesty" dont work with women...women stole my kids, my money , betrayed , cheated and all ..i could care less if you are green...
but i am not !
you showed your lack of sensitivity then say
"sorry" by email, but like most fee-males dont mean "sorry" at all!
you tell me you are closing down your facebook..so
do so..i dont need this sort of BS!
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N,, I recall why I cut you off before, and
its your attitude - you are so prejudiced YOURSELF! ...and like most biased
people you twist situation to suit your arguement..
- if you have problems with Paula Adams tell
HER, dont take it out on ME! I offered you ideas & support, and
you "bite"..
(and dont write that you are "sorry" ...when
you dont MEAN it..)
- Alison Stevenbs is only one of `1100 facebook
friends", I am not even IN the "Parents Against Injustice" group on facebook!
- and if U dont like her , tell HER, not me!
- YOU did NOT explain in ANY message I received
why my age was important, any more than your colour was imporant to me
(you are an example of "reverse prejudice"
,,because I am NOT your colour! , or age!)
- you conbtacted me, but you had no intention
of coming here, and thats ok, but dont waste my time with fee-male BS!
- I asked you to "check me out" if you wanted
to get to know me, you didnt, thats your choice , so lets forget it
- you mention me in videos, what videos?..I
asked YOU, you did not reply about that either!
- I ALWAYS write my true feelings, I just
hoped maybe you might be different, you arent - but good luck in your own
individual choice to challenge the system but dont come crying to me, when
they take your time & energy and just play ping-pong with your file
@ECHR , its fine to do your own thing, but because everyone goes alone
, and forms little local or specific groups without strategic co-ordination
"they" keep on with general human rights violations against all types of
people, not just your colour!!
end!
N.A.G>October 2010 at 07:31
Re: Good morning
A Stevens is your mate from Parents Against injustice.... the one your
name is besides all over the internet... you know something... goodbye
October 2010 at 07:24
Re: Good morning
Strange when some askes my age or I theirs there is no big deal. I
told you I just wanted to know and wrote why and you DID ignore me.
Have a go and attack?? honesty is not only your domain!
Yes I do not know you and thank you for reminding me.
N.A.G>"after all your just a woman..and "honesty" dont work with women...women
stole my kids, my money , betrayed , cheated and all"
Thank you it did not take long for you to write your true feelings.
This is what I have been waiting for and luckly i did
Hiya AJS,
just a quick reply , to thank you for your
email././...and...to inform you that I shall send a short message to Robin,
although , as I dont drink & drive and without there being public transport
late at night returning to Pg, I hope maybe they (we?) organise something
similar in Pg...and I will propose a meeting a.s.ap. with Dijana..
as for Ms Skinner, I didnt want to inject
any more "criticism" into our meeting yesterday, but from past experience,
I have found large organisations like hers are very reluctant to co-operate
with "unknowns" like myself, and become quite "political" or condescending,
I am not suggesting Noala is this way, but I tend to work best when I have
a free hand, and as I am not looking for a job, I dont feel inclined to
apply to do good work
..I hope you understand (btw-my "cv" is at
"Linkedin" if YOU are interested..)
I have already sent a couple of exploratory
messages concerning the ideas for next year, and suggest we could have
a short meeting (coffee or lunch) so i can "bounce" my ideas off of you
and presnt you (in)formally with the t-shirt! when you have time....
take care & have a good weekend..
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
the only ANSWER>>>>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
snips, snipes , Fx4 , comment
& discussion that shoul have been BLOGGED
but my Blog (@ http://eured.wordpress.com
) has been BLOCKED from me adding
more ...(last post; 11016;
"heroes & Villains" in the story so far)
:-
CS11028 >Dear A J-S,
I really enjoyed seeing you again this morning,
and what I hope is a productive start to my time here,
here is a link to my "Facebook group " (Network
of Estranged Parents & Abused Kids";
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=113346275396908#!/group.php?gid=217326933861
.....and the the Football Supporters email
I have forwarded to you seperately to either contact them direct or via
myself as a member of their "federation"..
I am co-ordinator of Liverpool Supporters
worldwide (E.L.S.U.N) and have already this year organisef 3 meetimgs
(in Bar, Stara Pazova & Skopje) thats my passion but as I explained
I also use my time support kids with coaching ; creative activities, fun
weekends etc.. last year in Holland I oranised a "Football Fun & International
friendhsip weekend" I brought over 2 fan club teams from Liverpool and
we had a "5-a-side" tournament ; grill party & "tombola" - and cleared
500 euros on the main day which was donated to "KIKA" (a charity for kids
with cancer) ..
video: 5-a-side (zwolle) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-_eLxJM4_c
On the way back from our meeting I was considering how we cold perhaps do something similar in advance of the English visit next year, with their fans & Liverpool supporters ( as the recent england captain Steven Gerrard is also captain of Liverpool fc, there is some useful connection!) and in Liverpool recently a 5-a-side event gained inerrnational recognition (and a lot of funds for charity) by breaking into the guiness book of records...such an event in Monenegro could raise awareness - perhaps to benefit the orphans or in association with "forum" MNE ...?
I will ocassionally look to you for "local guidance" but I promise to keep you informed and respect your busy schedule!
I wish you all the best for the "Celts New
year ; "Samain" (usually called "All saints"; all hallows" or what the
amercans re-named as "Halloween"... ;)
sincerely,
p.s I dont know if you are ready to be a "football fan" but if it doesnt offend any FCO "protocoll" , I would like to give you a special "souvenir T-shirt" - maybe we could meet for a coffee in the "centar" sometime and I ll give to you, it was a special we made for our attempt to organise a supporter - ownership of the Liverpool football club...
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GW>Chris,me old mate.Why is it that people who disagree with you are in the wrong.There are better supporters than you who do not need the urge to go public with every notion that comes into their head.Just cause you are based in mainline Europe does not make you the special one.Give it a rest Chris
CS>ChriS SmiTH 29 October at 11:04
"better supporters than me"..who is ??? on
what basis are they "better" ??? ..dont call me "old mate" then make BS
comments like that, you were WRONg about Rafa, and all you do (and "they"
who argue for RH can do is attack the messenger, you made no logical arguement
against Rafa, someone else told you that "it was tiime" and look at the
mess as a result..go sell it somewhere else Graham...I didnt call my self
the special one..but it makes me feel special when irrational arguement
is the only voice against MY OPINION!!! - and the little clique can do
what they like to shut me up, but I wont be shut up by you or them or anyone...!!!
because its the FECKing TRUTH graham!! and thats what you/they dont like!!
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the "speculation" is stirred by the media , and their "woy love-in" with illogical & UNfactual backing of RH v Rafas record..both Torres & Pepe are strong individuals who may not join the "clique" but they are LOYAL to LIVERPOOL: supporters..and we love them..so can the BS please and see whats really going on at Lfc..
that the new owners have ignored 95% of core Lfc supporters shout for hodgson to be replaced raises more questions against the "new yanks"...proposing to givew RH MORE money..to mis-manage?
without raining on anyone's parade, i cant fail to see the irony in that for so long our chant has been "yanks out" , although the apparent main culprit is /was Texan tommy...it concerns me how in our (righteous) anger & urgency in removing the disasterous duo we have far too readily welcomed in the "new yanks" ???
my suspicions are aroused when obviously broughton & purslow (who it seems lined up hodgson whilst Rafa was till manager) are typical of modern business methods, use their main "broker" in the NESV sale who was also the same one that introduced G & H !! ?
..the (late) move by SoS & ShareLfc to fund a supporters takeover was distracted &/or ignored by broughton & purslow,(as was Kenny) yet the (conveniently blind) mainstream media were too quick to hail purslow & broughton as "dragon slayers" ..
my feeling is that the million + global supporter/Lfc fan base was shafted, twice.
..maybe these new yanks are better than the previous devils, or maybe they are just better @ Public Relations? (very early & clever "courting" of supporters etc ) without actually doing anything except acquiring control of the club, which iS , despite the damage done by all of the above (including the "pawn" ; yes man ; hodgson) a global entity with billion dollar income (if properly managed) ?
please tell me YOU wont be fooled again...?
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#
Graham Wright Chris,you know it's not the Liverpool way to" attack"
the manager of the club,so why not give Hodgson some slack.As good and
as popular Benitez was,he is now history.Let us move onward and upward.See
you in Bucharest,same hotel mate.
#
ChriS SmiTH>greed Graham,but YOU KNOW YOU
SHOULD behave, and dont write cr*p -because YOU were one of the guity that
wanted rafa gone, and I asked you then (in Bucharest) who could do a better
job, you had no answer then and theres no answer now - w...e are in the
mess that fans who obviously didnt want to know what Rafa was up against
last season, are seeing now, what a mistake RH is!!!
In more than 40 years of support, and YOU KNOW how I support!! have ALWAYS supported OUR manager, but I dont count hodgson as OUR manager...he was employed by the crooks, after the cowards forced the best manager we had since 20 years out.. RH says "judge me after 10 games" even if we win @ bolton we will have won how many games?? 3 ..& narrowly against WBA & Blackburn at home!!!!
do you know how many games RH has won in the Pl away from home , with anyone?...anyone with sense sees that he was a "political signing" ..IF his attitude had been different, yes I would give him slack, but he doesnt act, talk or perform like a LFC manager, ...give you a comparison , if england had been occupied by nazies would you have accepted adolf as Pm?..
I gave him "slack" until he came out with cr*p about supporters protests, about Agger, not defending Torres (v ferge etc etc)
there U go, maybe cu in Buch ..insha'allah! ;)
take care!
CS>if Hodgson knew even a fraction of what core supporters know about Pepe, he would know much Pepe is loved and how much he loves to play for Lfc, ..woy failed to stick up for Nando against hodgsons buddy fegie, and so is now trying to win favour, its that obvious that the media love hodgson..and so wont print the truth = that 95% of core Lfc supporters KNOW her is NOt the man! or manager of quality capable of leading Lfc to greatness, at best he was a pawn of the previous "set up"..
&
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2010/10/28/phil-thompson-christian-purslow-deserves-great-credit-in-lfc-takeover-100252-27556735/?plckFindCommentKey=CommentKey:2f2574f1-5085-4e25-a564-579f18d44329
CS>we should have been up at the top challenging for honours, and would have been had the back-stabbers not forced out the best manager we had in 20 years..
95% of core Lfc supporters know full well that
hodgsons media buddies & "pundits" are "spinning " for him (who by
the way arent any good as managers thats why they are ironically aclaimed
by the media as "experts" ) ..
fergie & maureen wouldnt be so stupid
as to say the things hodgson says, and whilst i dont like either of them
they certainly would try to understand the ethics of the support &
the Liverpool way, not act like a narrow-minded schoolteacher..the team
played better sunday, but that style was more like Rafa's pressure - play
than hodgsons defensive set-up ..Rh may be ok in getting average players
to play better but we are Liverpool we only want someone of Kenny or Rafa's
stature that can bring the best out of a squad (still , despite theG &
H/ broughton-purslow mis-management) full of international class players!
hodgson is NOT that man, and core supporters
know & FEEL it..
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ChriS-EuRED@paul_tomkins @neiljjones
- hodgson didnt even mention danny when asked
about injuries on Lfc.tv ...staring to have a real antiwoy effect!
»
every time I read mainsttream articles, or "spin" of Lfc office or interviews
with hodgson, i get hungry for intelligence, so am off today!»
ChriS-EuRED
#
Farouk Yahya just wait for the winter transfer window
ChriS SmiTH >no I will not wait because RH
is NOT our manager, appointed by the false "owners" G & H ..he is not
LFc qualifty, Kenny should takeover until Rafa comes back ..no way is RH
qualified to manage our team OR transfers, damage LIMITATION NOW!
#
Sue Saberton Conde> Chris you sound like a child spittin the dummy,
not many of us think Roy is the guy for us BUT alls we can do is wait and
see what happens, the new owners are no mugs and will appoint somesone
new i'm pretty sure of that. Personally i'd love Rafa to come back and
Kenny to take over in the mean time BUT get down off ya high horse lad
will ya, you sound like an utter brat :)
ChriS SmiTH>
Sue, sorry if me being right upsets U, read
the facts lass, not the media BS, ...95% CORE supporters want RH to go..im
just backing my opinion i have had since before the season started!!!!
..but..im not wasting my time on it today..u ch...oose to believe what
u want, but thanks for calling me a brat, im too much of a gentleman to
say what i think of u right now..<smile>
CS11027 -anyway....im having a "DaY OFF" (or
an "off day" ) from constantly arguing over Lfc .bankers, yankers &
W.........allies ;) ... hodgson is doing my head in, so i've become addicted
to Utube comedy clips..from mock the week; frankie boyle ; have i got new..;
eddie izzard ; john bishop ..just needed to get my sense of humour , which
i left behind in the centenary stand after the SoS meeting & the black
shirt protest last month..;0)
etc : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhS4UMBKz2Y&NR=1
ok because that was the main point of your discussion i disputed, that anyone should always be selected IMO ...although Pepe has no competition now that purslow let cavileri go..anyway, we finally agee on something..although maybe age-wise the eventual pairing could / should be Dagger & Skrtel, although Sotos is today "the man" Carra will have something to say / play before he retires..
as he was forced out whilst under contract by the board of G & H - it would be honourable to bring him back a.s.a.p to fulfill it, in the meantime Kenny must takeover from hodgson if we wish to have any dignity on or off the field..
no I will not wait because RH is NOT our manager, appointed by the false "owners" G & H ..he is not LFc qualifty, Kenny should takeover until Rafa comes back ..no way is RH qualified to manage our team OR transfers, damage LIMITATION NOW!
liver word> sotos automatic..?
u like to exagerate, dont you?..Danny Agger
is creative from the back and with a good defensive partner is vital to
the sort of football we SHOULD be playing (like Hansen & Lawrensen
of the old Lfc team, Hansen was also judged to be "slow" and not strong
int he air) mind you Sanny featured in a lot of big gaMES FOR LFC ..up
against top forwards (like when we won 0-1 @ chelski in 2008 which was
featured ion Lfc tv last night ) ..whatever yr opinion there is no way
that any player is AUTOMATIC, whether sotos or anyone else! except maybe
Pepe!
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Paul Tomkins
RT @Nicodemus101: How did the Sunday Times get this so wrong? #LFC
http://bit.ly/b9ORCU
EURED09paul_tomkins @Nicodemus101
-because they cant admit that they were wrong
about blaming Rafa & they cant justify RH being in charge @ Lfc
@liverword>it depends, but whatever hes not
world class and if agger was fully fit and in form would be the choice
for any progressive manager, but we have hodgson , so hell he will tend
to select who his buddies in the media says..
dont mis understood sotos deserves his position
now, but that does not make him automatic choice, ..eh mr hodgson ;) >?
11025
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2JbRYrmf74
to twit-ers today..
EuRED09 ChriS-EuRED
@paul_tomkins @JenChang88 - BEWARE of the
"USA-commercialisation" of OUR "Liverpool way" . we are watching you too,
John Henry/NESV!
»
EuRED09 ChriS-EuRED
@liverpool - boss of who? hes not boss for
95% of the core supporters!»
ChriS-EuRED
EuRED09 ChriS-EuRED
.- if NESV are truly concerned with those
who bring the income to our club; the supporters, whose core are 95%...
http://tinyurl.com/22pyqs5
@RushianLFC - problem not just liars in the
media, but the naivety of fans, including "supporters" who did not go for
SoS-SL until too late
@thisisanfield more scudamore "spin"=the naive
have let more "yanks" in footy, we WILL regret SoS-SL not organising supporters
fund sooner!
EuRED09 ChriS-EuRED
In the meantime put a MAN in Rafas seat ;
Kenny is strong enough to manage players, get respect of fans & y-bankerhttp://twitpic.com/30s0og
Re: BBC: The inner circle behind the NESV takeover
« Reply #22 on: Today at 12:48:42 PM »
There was one very interesting comment make
by Tom Hicks during an interview in his initial days. He said that there
are many billionaires far wealthier than him in the Uk and in Liverpool
but none chose to buy LFC coz everyone knows that football clubs are a
terrible investment. That really caught my attention.
The best thing that can happen to LFC is the kinda fan-ownership structure at Barcelona with "socios" and stuff. It isnt a PLC so there are no shares, no majority stake-holders, no hostile takeover attempts.. And the second-best thing would be to have an owner like Massimo Moratti... Why I say Moratti and not a sugar-daddy like Roman or Mansour is that I dont ever want LFC to be some play-thing or someone's Trophy-wife... The guy is reasonably wealthy and fuckin loves the club to bits. His wealth is hardly comparable to Roman and he's even contemplating buying Messi. We cant even dream to dream of buying Messi. Arsenal's structure is praiseworthy. But how much longer before Kroenke makes a hostile takeover bid. There's is not much that individual investors are gonna be able to in the PLC structure.
NESV's ownership, though hopefully a lot better than H&G, is hardly ideal for us as fans. The fact that these guys think Football is 15yrs behind the American market sends a chill down my spine. If commercialization and success mean losing your soul then fuck success. The FA and the Premier League are so hell-bent on making the BPL the greatest show on earth that we're bound to go the american way. We find cheerleaders at cricket matches so dont be surprised to find Cheer leaders at anfield in the near future.
Bundesliga is probably not 1/10th as popular as the PL but they definitely are the healthiest league. Strange that no one takes them as example. I always have and always will think that the fans are the ones who need to own the club and the administration of the club needs to be looked after by the best in the business.
We've become so fuckin paranoid, and justifiably so, coz of the way the club has been treated by the previous fucks. And it's bound to continue if, god forbid, NESV dont spent much or any at all during January. Going by what this Inner Circle guy said about fans needing to be patient and there's gonna more investment during the Summer than in Jan, for a paranoid fan the alarm bells have already begun regarding NESV's intentions and their ability to invest.
As long as LFC continues to be an investment and source of revenue to businessmen this fear is bound to remain. Football aint business. The thought of making money out of someone's love for the game is only gonna kill the love. Once the love is gone there aint no game no more. Money is important but love for the game is it's life source. Given a chance the americans will even commercialize love for your wife, your kids and family. The more you spend on your family the more love you get and the more love you show the more money you make. Fuckin shit man.
This is Football. We watch it coz we LOVE the fuckin game. The goal is and always will be 7.32 x 2.44m. If you feel you would've loved your wife a lot more if she had washboard abs or upturned nose then you dont need a wife to love my friend. Go find yourself a hooker. And that is exactly what football might turn into in "10-15yrs".
I dont intend to hijack the thread but this was the only relevant thread where I could post it.
http://www.nesn.com/2010/10/roy-hodgson-given-60-million-war-chest-ashley-young-diego-forlan-on-radar.html
I'm not sure why they would post this on the official NESN website which is supposedly the mouth-piece of NESV. They claim 60 mil being available and then they refer to "tribal football" as source. I dont really understand.
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CS>I dont fight the evil because I want recognition, I fight it because
its the right thing to do!!!
NAG>25 October at 20:10 Report
really! it is not about want, it is about respect! Especially when
the same people are playing heros!
By the way how is A. Stevens?? at least with the Americans etc.
they have manners and say thank you!
11023
Lfc 2 (Sotos , Torres ) Bburn 1 (Carra OG) H-T 0-0
Lots of chances Sotos M-o-M (the black-haired
Sami!!) @ both ends ref should have given us 1 or 2 pens for fouls
on Sotos, fluid (forward) movement from midfield Mereles , Lucas &
SG ; apart from their goal Defence looked solid, Torres sharper (got
better support), and Cole assisted well for the goal, Shelvey deserved
to come on late..BUT, all credit for the result ....happier team, players
took responsibility ..(away from RH?) ..but we are still in relegation
zone and were a bit nervous in the last 10 mins, against a poor Bburn team,
their team only in 17th place ..played at Anfield, keep perspective..dont
get carried away we are far from the form we need ; WE are LIVERPOOL!
i have to laugh at the title text - its "RH's men when they win"? ..the
media blamed rafa for losses, yet 95% of core supporters blame hodgson
for the poor results until now..seems like the players followed "Rafa style"
pressing & closing dow high up the field "a la Benitez"..
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Liverpool Echp>the texans gone & if Thicks want to attempt a claim if got a list to go to court against them with! ...but these are new "yankee suits" filling the board ("bored" ? ) ...
where are SoS-Sl and the supporters fund, which has taken too long to set up?..we should still use it challenge JH for our share..its still a mistake to think its "all over"..dont be fooled again!!
these may just a bit cleverer in their PR than G & H...
now 95 % want RH to go, and with reason, we cant wait , if it was ONLY about results on the field fair enough,we could back him if he showed some class & loyalty - but his attitude is not LIVERPOOL quality..
yes the players have to fight for the shirt, but hodgson just doesnt fit the job, and he was placed there by those who forced out Rafa...
bad karma ?...anyway, I shall continue the boycott until all those associated with the old regime are gone, 3 down 2 (broughton & RH) to go, but soon,PLEASE, because if we want to have anything like a decent season Kenny should take over until a long term solution is decided upon..
trouble is these suits know about as much about
footy as G & H (or the media "pundits" who do nothing but spout their
biased "spin" ..)
RAWKJdJ >Would love to hear a few rounds of Rafa-Rafael tomorrow and a banner about the 2nd epic swindle of the year being perpetrated by the media blaming our current woes on Rafa.
Don't really care if it's showing a lack of
respect of Hodgson - the gloves are off, this is too important. We're
in danger of allowing a conclusion to be arrived at where by all of our
current on the field problems are down to Rafa and all we need to do is
unpick everything he worked towards and we're be back on track. That
conclusion will ruin this club, absolutely ruin it. We'll turn it
from something we're proud of, that the whole of Europe feared again to
something ugly, generic and horrible and something we don't believe in.
So no, Alan Hansen isn't entitled to his opinion when he says Rafa's to
blame and no Souness isn't entitled to his opinion when he says we're in
the worst state since 1959 and no Hodgson isn't entitled to his opinion
when he talks about inheriting a mess - we were moving in the right direction
under Rafa, a mindless lurch to an English philosophy of all things will
do as much damage to this club as Hicks and Gillet did. The result
will be the same - we won't compete on the pitch.
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NAG>25 October at 20:28 Report
just noticed that you have now asked P. Adams to friend request me???
She had no interest when I deleted her months ago, did not even bother
to ask me why?
I am fighting the British Goveernment for abusing my family and child.
Now this???? I do not recall these people helping me with my fight with
the RCJ, in fact they did nothhing and NOW it is you must join us.....
we will groom you to do what we want... do i look like a victim. just remembered
I am black, so I must be one. This is the BRITISH way of thinking.
I ask you you age you ignore me. you then tell me I must put up my
personal pics on fb, because you have...
oh yes i do recall why you deleted me before, because i posted on your
wall and i note people post on your wall and you do not delete them!!!!
CS>you just proved my point why evil wins..
U attack me, because I suggested P. Adams, ? am I supposed to KNOW you have a problems with her, and now, with me?
americans have manners>,,yeh after they steal everything from you they say thank you??
USA has taught the world to be greedy and violently step on anyone to get what you want..? they "help" the third world (as long as they can sell big cars big macs & microsoft to them...
oh so now its th "black issue"..maybe I disagree with you becuase thats my honest opinion, maybe you dont know that I was often the only white face in parties organised by "blacks" when I was fighting against the violations of all "foreigners" rights when I lived in "germoney" ..the place where they stole everything = the germans love americans - and stole my kids too!
is your "age-ist" question of me any better type of prejudice??
I entioned my pictures so you can see who I am..not how old I am..
but obviously it is YOU that is "prejudiced" because I AM "older"???
i didnt IGNORE you, I asked you WHY you needed to know my age..so get it RIGHT before you have a go,,
and BTW - when someone puts something on my wall, without asking or that I dont agree with I ALWAYS remove it or delete them
so go and BS with someone else, and dont play the "friends" thing with me, because you are NOT "honest"..after all your just a woman..and "honesty" dont work with women...women stole my kids, my money , betrayed , cheated and all ..i could care less if you are green...
but i am not !
you showed your lack of sensitivity then say "sorry" by email, but like most fee-males dont mean "sorry" at all!
you tell me you are closing down your facebook..so do so..i dont need
this sort of BS!
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N, I recall why I cut you off before, and its your attitude - you are
so prejudiced YOURSELF! ...and like most biased people you twist situation
to suit your arguement..
- if you have problems with Paula Adams tell HER, dont take it out on
ME! I offered you ideas & support, and you "bite"..
(and dont write that you are "sorry" ...when you dont MEAN it..)
- Alison Stevenbs is only one of `1100 facebook friends", I am not
even IN the "Parents Against Injustice" group on facebook!
- and if U dont like her , tell HER, not me!
- YOU did NOT explain in ANY message I received why my age was important,
any more than your colour was imporant to me
(you are an example of "reverse prejudice" ,,because I am NOT your
colour! , or age!)
- you conbtacted me, but you had no intention of coming here, and thats
ok, but dont waste my time with fee-male BS!
- I asked you to "check me out" if you wanted to get to know me, you
didnt, thats your choice , so lets forget it
- you mention me in videos, what videos?..I asked YOU, you did not
reply about that either!
- I ALWAYS write my true feelings, I just hoped maybe you might be
different, you arent - but good luck in your own individual choice to challenge
the system but dont come crying to me, when they take your time & energy
and just play ping-pong with your file @ECHR , its fine to do your own
thing, but because everyone goes alone , and forms little local or specific
groups without strategic co-ordination "they" keep on with general human
rights violations against all types of people, not just your colour!!
end!
N.A.G>October 2010 at 07:31
Re: Good morning
A Stevens is your mate from Parents Against injustice.... the one your
name is besides all over the internet... you know something... goodbye
October 2010 at 07:24
Re: Good morning
Strange when some askes my age or I theirs there is no big deal. I
told you I just wanted to know and wrote why and you DID ignore me.
Have a go and attack?? honesty is not only your domain!
Yes I do not know you and thank you for reminding me.
N.A.G>"after all your just a woman..and "honesty" dont work with women...women
stole my kids, my money , betrayed , cheated and all"
Thank you it did not take long for you to write your true feelings.
This is what I have been waiting for and luckly i did
Hiya A-J-S,
just a quick reply , to thank you for your
email././...and...to inform you that I shall send a short message to Robin,
although , as I dont drink & drive and without there being public transport
late at night returning to Pg, I hope maybe they (we?) organise something
similar in Pg...and I will propose a meeting a.s.ap. with Dijana..
as for Ms Skinner, I didnt want to inject
any more "criticism" into our meeting yesterday, but from past experience,
I have found large organisations like hers are very reluctant to co-operate
with "unknowns" like myself, and become quite "political" or condescending,
I am not suggesting Noala is this way, but I tend to work best when I have
a free hand, and as I am not looking for a job, I dont feel inclined to
apply to do good work
..I hope you understand (btw-my "cv" is at
"Linkedin" if YOU are interested..)
I have already sent a couple of exploratory
messages concerning the ideas for next year, and suggest we could have
a short meeting (coffee or lunch) so i can "bounce" my ideas off of you
and presnt you (in)formally with the t-shirt! when you have time....
take care & have a good weekend..
CS
From: AJ-S
To: ball_can_reds@
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:45:00 +0100
Subject: RE: BcR CS>11028 Ana S-J
Dear Chris,
It was nice seeing you and having that chat yesterday, indeed. Thank you for all the useful information and contacts you've already sent.
If English fans will be willing to have some charity work here next
year at the time of the match, that would be lovely. I could help
on behalf of the Embassy, and they would also have you as an additional
(or main) organiser of such events here.
Many thanks for the kind gift, I'd love to have such shirt, so thank
you very much.
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and the diary (this is just for my own benefit..
Shapes of Things (The Yardbirds)
Shapes of things before my eyes,
Just teach me to despise.
Will time make men more wise?
Here within my lonely frame,
my eyes just heard my brain.
But will it seem the same?
(Come Tomorrow) Will I be older?
(Come Tomorrow) May be a soldier.
(Come Tomorrow) May I be bolder than today?
Now the trees are almost green.
But will they still be seen?
When time and tide have been.
Fall into your passing hands.
Please don't destroy these lands.
Don't make them desert sands.
Chorus, Lead.
Soon I hope that I will find,
Thoughts deep within my mind.
That won't displace my kind
---------------------------------CS>hello Sanja,
The "REdBev" idea was "overtaken" by excitement & distraction due to the high court drama which resulted in NESV taking the place of Hicks & co. there are 2 aspects relevent IMO.
a) Although we confirmed the merger of the supporters Union & ShareLFC - delays in legal formation of supporters bid & our credit union allowed NESV the chance to get share control "at a bargain" (as I truly believe a properly managed "LiverBird branded club" has a worldwide market exceeding one billion p/a sales turnover, now.
b) The owner (New England Sporting Ventures)
control the american baseball club "Boston RED sox"..
I feel that commercially the "RedBev" idea
is perhaps even more "marketable" with perhaps a different approach than
I first envisaged. The "idea" is out there..it needs a proper planned structural
support, which I am not in a position to "spnsor" right now..
I attended the supporters meetings (EGM) etc last month in Liverpool, but I am now back in Pg "centar" at different accomodation. If you wish to meet.
sincerely
ChriS SMITH
E.L.S.U.N / KOP UNlimited.
Quoting chrismith
> -ChriS>Hello Sanja
> I want to have a meeting a.s.a.p. with your holding company C.E.O.
can we meet
> confidentially soon?
> not at your office...or mine ;)
> please absorb the attachment ; if this proceeds as we hope there
will be a
> bigger issue than "RED Bev" !
>
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> Spirit of Shankly
>
> _____________________________
______________________________________________________________________"in
association with E.L.S.U.N. ; EuRED Liverpool Supporters (overseas) , UNION
Network ; "Balkan REdS" & "ZReDS" and to better organise
& support all Global Reds, individuals, groups, (UNofficial) supporters
club & Lfc fan groups - we are inviting members (if they have not PREVIOUSLY
done so) to jon "Ko(0)p UNltd ; Shanks' ARK ("All Red Kop") ..IMO this
SHALL progress true Global REdS ownership & resolving of various complaints,equal
rights; credit union; travel & ticket issues, etc etc "
join @ the link on the wall
administrators or other friends , please translate into your preferred
language and add to OUR E.L.S.U.N "balkan REdS" wall..
Red Sox Front Office
Boston Red Sox
Fenway Park
4 Yawkey Way
Boston, MA 02215
(redsox.com / Tel: 617-226-6000)
for the confidential attn of Principal Owner John W. Henry
"Dear John",
Thats an interesting start to a letter, because
we may yet be parting company before we even know each other!
In the same way I wrote to G & H 3 years
ago, I am writing to you to set out honest opposition to anything
other than full & equal Global Reds supporters
ownership of LIVERPOOL football club.
I recently invited "Linkedin" contact with
Joe & via facebook..with the following note "so Joe Januszewski - lets
see if you and your buddies are going to improve matters back...
to pre-2007 days at least when we were int he 2nd Champions league final
within 3 seasons..Torres was signed and Rafa was building us up to be a
PL winning side..
but if you are a distant fan, like 90% of
our fan base will you ensure that WE get an equal benefit @ Lfc - that
all true global REDS supporters are represented and benefit..?
So that you know where I/we stand ;
http://eured.wordpress.com/2010/10/16/hes-not-the-mesiah-hes-a-very-naughty-boy-heroes-villans-of-the-story-11016-so-far/
I am also critical of the delay by SoS/SL and
other fan groups who failed to act upon my proposals to oppose
G & H (and act progressively ourselves)
-Copies of a Letter to ShareLfc (copied to SoS chaiman) & an article
in core
supporter magazine ("KOP") enclosed. The global
fan base are 90& outside of Liverpool & account for arguably 80%
of the
potential billion dolllar income worldwide.
Sincerely
ChriS SMITH/E.L.S.U.N
EuRED LIVERPOOL Supporters (overseas) Union
Network
KOP UNltd/ c/o "Balkan REDS"
Tripa Kokolja 15,
81000 Podgorica, Montenegro
(the Balkans) Europe
private email : chrismith@
http://eured.wordpress.com
http://mypod-net.org/SuperNova.htm (REd october; blackshirts strategy)
RED October ; Black shirts..
(cut from blog..“SoS” ..sending out a messag in Willie’s name?
Some call themselves SPIRIT of SHANKLY?
I have to say, quite Frankly
that I think its a CRIME
(i ‘ll try to make this rhyme!)
apart from a march
& a concert @ St. George’s hall
they have not done fecking much at ALL
Shanks would have taken control
taken foes by scruff of the neck
the Peoples man had courage
by fecking heck!
Suppoters who claim “We are the Club”
let me tell you..
this is the rub..
Its up to global REDS to take command
not some brief, some lawyer,
or other hand..
his Spirit lives, heres my tip…
in HIS name fight for (full) Owner-ship
..a simple injunction to freeze the club finance on the grounds of mis-management,(in the interests of the supporters & community at large) investigate all concerned -whilst register the 50-100,000 fans & celebrities collect their funds and start the Supporters tale-over..its simple BUT needs proper co-ordination and I am not in LP..
Extracted from
I) Letter sent to “ShareLiverpool LF” (Rogan
Taylor) & the Chairman of “Spirit of Shankly”
(29th August 2008)
“Dear Rogan,
(snip) I Asked you a question in the Lighthouse
theatre last wednesday about “spiirit of shankly” aims..(snip) I do not
see any non-locals on either committee/board (SLfc or SoS) (snip)
“I feel a CLOSER presentation & PROMOTION
(of SLfc / SoS aims) is VITAL (snip)
“The purchase of a share @ GBP 5000 may be
felt too much for some members” WE have the facility…(snip)
(which) looks very do-able for many of the
100,000 global fans that we also perceive will support the supporter-shareholder
control of LFC.” (snip)
“THE REAL marketing of the “LIVERBIRD” brand
….” (snip)
“Your offer (in the meeting) to visit us and
combine initiatives is apreciated and I would like to fix some dates. (snip)
-”there are very many REDS all over the World
that have equal PASSION as RED scousers”
II) PUBLISHED in “KOP magazine” (march 2009)
“I wonder if Spirit of Shankly and ShareLfc
have done ENOUGH to inform (or even educate) the millions of fans worldwide
about the OPPORTUNITY that perhaps more mature supporters appreciate?”
(snip)
“we NEED dynamic management & effectively
a GLOBAL persepctive, bringing the essence of SOS & ShareLFC together
as two committees could, I fear (without insulting anyone concerned
with good intentions) turn this potential derby-winning racehouse into
a twin-camel.” (snip) I attended the recent meeting at Zeligs (snip) (snip)
“I for one, feel (and fear) that we may only
realise how good Rafa is after he has gone. – The first AGM of SoS has
NOT been adequately “sold” other than locally , and is is (also) my fear
that the TRUE spirit of SHANKLY is already being lost before we even LAUNCH
our “strategy”..ChriS SMITH (via email) “
True REDS Supporters – HEROES
…….occasionally naive but a LOT of true REDS
who gave up time & costs & energy & effort to fight for Y-OUR
club
amongst them ; “Fat Scouser” (RAWK forum)
Jonny (“Black Shirt” = standards corrupted”)several @ “Kop Faithful” (Steve?)
and certain supporters who helped SoS (maybe Jay Mac of SoS) organise
a march, concert, posters, flyers & travel etc and various individual
initaitives, banners & such…may YOU NEVER walk Alone.
WE (Global REDS) even started to move on a “SUPPORTERS INJUNCTION” (counter claim) & “Class action” V our enemies..(past, present & FUTURE???)
a) This fight is far from over, b) MB & CP are the villians who also damaged our club and C) WE supporters should have acted earlier to own our club, and must get involved (not just 1% of us)
we should (via SoS-SL) have enough funds to
do it – put in our own injunction to ensure OUR interests are protected
and If we allow NESV to profit from our income then we really ARE stupid
and get what we deserve = NOTHING!…apart from the benefits of combined
action (own media , forums & Kop Faithful/SoS-SL) should be promoting
not only our protest but that with a global sale of Lfc products, match
day, tv & other services, WE generate an income of over a BILLION,
which make 500 quid (even available @ 10 quid a month via credit union?)
a BARGAIN once-in-a-lifetime investment!!!
…often…the best form of defence is attack-
a lot of global REDS are keen to join the global REDS supporters injunction/”class
action” V Hicks & all our foes..through wind & rain…WE ARE THE
CLUB!
although only 1 % of Liverpool’s global supporters
have been “active” so far, we must not allow others to dictate our future
– WE are the club..and need to show it as much now as at any time..WE should
be taking the initiative making OUR claim via an injunction if necessary
to protect OUR club from further abuse, by anyone!
…The” counter claim” ..which indeed is not
but should be a simple injunction to protect our club & global supporters
from further damage/abuse..could include
- the need to protect the community from mis-management
or “fire sale” of arguably a “uniqueworld-famous cultural/heritage site”
(Anfield)
- the varuious claims global supporters have
against the ticket office & other Lfc departments
- apart from numerous complaints by UK fans,
non-uk supporters having less benefits than local supporters/fans despite
paying the same for fancards etc
- the overall & detailed damages to our
cliub and global image
- etc etc..
…through wind & rain…WE ARE THE CLUB
!IF ONLY(Lfc football supporters Union) SoS-SL
had come together a year earlier (as I proposed in 2008)…because in the
last month only 1% of our million + fan base “walked on”…at all-if
only 10% had acted before now WE would be owning the club (our club!)
take care, fellow (true ) REDS ..with hope…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc&feature=…player_embedded
…….. its not over yet, of course the mainstream and the fickle amongst us dont like “people power” but our society has been ruined by commercial/capitalist obsession and downright “greed is good , money is king” selfish behaviour , in society in general and particularly in football, Lfc are (still) the ……………
most succesful club, in the most important league , in the biggest game/culture of the global society, if we dont stand up and tell people what is right or wrong, and fight for (global) supporter ownership (and if ever a club should be owne…d by its supporters then its Liverpool football club) …..who will?..the apathetic person who has been “dumbed down” over generations by politicians & media?..
whether we / SoS win a share or not , whether we get rid of the backstabbing “suits” or not, maybe just maybe our kids will see that its not all a case of “show me the money”..
“our lives begin to end when we stop standing up and fighting for our
rights” – Martin luther King ?11016)
__________________________________________________________________
CS11011> what we need tomorrow
- G & H out, (and co-operation by RBS
with Global REDS Union Network)
- quickly followed out by broughton, purslow
& hodgson
- no more "backstabbing suits" , fickle fans,
bankers or yankers exploiting our club
- Global REDS Supporters properly networked
with effective management running the club
I have written so much on this issue...but, IF we respect the original LIverpool way and want to keep the TRUE Spirit & ethics that Bill Shankly established when he took us out of the 2nd division and built the basis & mentality of what is now a GLOBAL iconic club..best know by the REDS Supporters as much as any player..then in a world of cheatring & lying capitalism & selfish commercialism WE , the supporters MUST fight to own OUR club.
- its OURS- they stole it - if we have any
belief in "YNWA!" we SUPPORTERS must take it over
- we have more than a Million fan base worldwide
- if everybody puts even a LITTLE inside we have enough to grow this club
- Liverpool, match tickets, TV revenues, replica
shirts, souvenirs & related products & services generate OVER 1
BILLION euros/dollars per ANNUM
- There is no reason to have business bankers
or franchisers from USA or anywhere else taking charge (and TAKING PROFIT)
from US
- A professional management could easily turn
our club into a profitable global entity once again dominating local &
global football
www.mypod-net.org/SuperNova.html
www.mypod-net.org/KOP_UNlimited.html
_________________________________
the media NOW start to mention the "protest"
movement but avoid the Issue of SUPPORTERS ownership, 50,000 already registered
and our global network can multiply that x 20 ...@ 500 per share we are
the ONLY solution for the club, and when the media, the "pundits" the yankers
& the bankers , and even some "fickle fans" finally realise that -
we can move away from the stream of mis-informed BS! WE are the club..
if you CARE, get a SHARE! 03 October
at 14:46
Hiya Nane, I am working on it <smile> every
day trying to motivate our global RED Supporters, tell your friends in
Indonesia , Malaysia etc to keep saving , even small money and we will
help you get a share..
.. woy is the wrong man sitting in Rafas seat
....
(I have such a BIG respect for Rafa, and almost
none for a man who was placed in his seat by liars & cheats!)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/liverpool-is-my-home-and-i-will-come-back-2362665.html
There are special times in our history when
off-field events dwarf the on field footy ..Shanks leaving ; his death;
Heysel, HillsBOROUGH ; Kenny departing and...NOW
http://eured.wordpress.com/2010/10/03/liverpool-supernova-is-a-universal-event-the-story-so-far/
'Liverpool is my home and I will come back'
- Soccer, Sport - Independent.ie
www.independent.ie
'Football is a lie.' Anybody who has spent
any time with Rafael Benitez will have heard these words. There are a million
lies in football, a hundred thousand ways for the flimflam men and the
bullshitters to prosper.
________________..all true REDS...
.."first they ignore you"
OUR fan base of GLOBAL REds is in excess of ONE million people - if YOU dont believe that we can OWN Lfc then you dont DESERVE to call yourself a "Liverpool SUPPORTer, maybe the people around you, the media, and some "fans" will tell you it is "impossible" but if Barca, Bayern or Benfica can do it , so can WE..because IF EVER a CLUB was DESTINED to be owned by its Supporters then it is LIVERPOOL
Proposed do's & donts...
- DO BOYCOTT all official/unoffcial LFC products,
merchandise & services, until Supporters ownership is agreed
- DONT insult people or act with violence
- DO wear "We ARE the CLUB" or "Standards
Corrupted" Shirts if YOU have them, otherwise wear a plain BLACK shirt,
whenever possible.
- DONT be distracted by media "rumours" of
financial saviours or G & H etc, it does NOT matter what THEY do, but
what WE do!
- DO tell "rogue traders" (who sell "unofficial"
merchandise) to join this protest - we can bring them in the network in
the future.
- Dont save up in banks - save 10 euros, dollars
or pounds per month @home - the Global REds Credit Union will help you
get your share.
- DO make (peaceful) protests, at stadia,
official shops & against G & H, RBS or Barclays bank branches and
take your money OUT of their hands.
SUPPORTER OWNERSHIP
.a million x 500 Euros or dollars is MORE than
enough to push Lfc into a GOLDEN future instead of the dark times we now
experience..They forced out Rafa ; they ignored our call for Kenny ; we
will force THEM out, and replace Purslow, Proughton and the "pawn" Hodgson
with honest & effective management. The "office" of LFC will HAVE to
co-operate with us eventually, and we are also "ready" to negociate removal
of "yankers & bankers" on OUR terms not theirs.
/WE have thepower to be the "group of people"
that IS the BIG RED GLOBAL family, THIS is a "family concern" (remember
YNWA!) - be concerned ...be involved - be progressive ........... IF you
CARE - get a SHARE! ...
ChriS
BLOG ; http://eured.wordpress.com/
E.L.S.U.N
p.s."First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi
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mr M has a RED car..
mr H says he wants to buy it and turn it into
a sports conversion
mr M agrees to sell the car for 200 quid
mr H borrows 200 quid from the bank, gived
it to mr M , but dont have any money for the "conversion"
but the Car owes the bank (!) the interest
on the loan..and the bank puts a time limit on the loan
sometime later the bank says " the loan /
interest is getting too much - pay it back now.
mr Sx comes along and says "I like that car"
I want to pay for it
its agreed to sell the car to mr Sx
then mr H says "No its my car - and people
want to buy it for more than what mr Sx pay"
but the bank want their money and if mr Sx
pays for it the bank & mr sx are happy
(the car doesnt object, either)
then mr H goes to court to stop the sale
but the contract for the sale of the Car to
mr Sx is decided by the judge as binding
- even if mr H pays the bank, mr Sx will be
declared the legal owner of the car..
or so it seems ! <smile>
p.s except theres a million mechanics in the background who believe they built the car and its theirs! ;) lol
p.p.s. trouble is, mr H neglected the Car & left it out in the rain, and its gone "Rusty RED" ...
11014
Supporters initiative/IS a "class action"
a) This fight is far from over, b) MB & CP are the villians who also damaged our club and C) WE supporters should have acted earlier to own our club, and must get involved (not just 1% of us)
we should (via SoS-SL) who have enough funds to do it - put in our own injunction to ensure OUR interests are protected and If we allow NESV to profit from our income then we really ARE stupid and get what we deserve = NOTHING!
apart from the benefits of combined action
you (media , forums & Kop Faithfu/SoS-SL) should be promoting not only
our protest but that with a global sale of Lfc products, match day, tv
& other services, WE generate an income of over a BILLION, which make
500 quid (even available @ 10 quid a month via credit union?) a BARGAIN
once-in-a-lifetime investment!!!
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although only 1 % of Liverpool supporters
have been "active" so far, we must not allow others to dictate our future
- WE are the club..and need to show it as much now as at any time..WE should
be taking the initiative making OUR claim via an injunction if necessary
to protect OUR club from further abuse, by anyone!
...The" counter claim" ..which indeed is not
but should be a simple injunction to protect our club & global supporters
from further damage/abuse..could include
- the need to protect the community from mis-management
or "fire sale" of arguably a "uniqueworld-famous cultural/heritage site"
(Anfield)
- the varuious claims global supporters have
against the ticket office & other Lfc departments
- non-uk supporters having less benefits than
local supporters/fans despite paying the same for fancards etc
- the overall & detailed damages to our
cliub and global image
- etc etc..
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11013 11h (UK time) RBS wins first round v G & H...
"chelski chappy chairman" martin broughton was only doing his (highly paid) job, and late at that..his & purslows involvement in the false removal of Rafa and some strange dealings casts a shadow..Ayres may be the only "clean player" in this bored-room scenario..and its still likely to be appealed..the words "out of the frying pan" come to mind..& we dont know the 17 millionaires behind J. henry (could be the KKK ,,Bush or Hicks's family for all we know! ;) ..!)
I feel whats come out of all this madness is the lack of ability of ANYOne to manage Lfc & hope the situation is "frozen" -give global support time to continue with plansl, RBS should be backing US now!
IF ONLY(Lfc football supporters Union) SoS-SL
had come together a year earlier (as I proposed in 2008)...because in the
last month only 1% of our million + fan base "walked on"...at all-if
only 10% had acted before now WE would be owning the club (our club!)
take care, fellow (true ) REDS ..with hope...
http://eured.wordpress.com
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/oct/13/liverpool-sale-high-court-verdict-live
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2010/10/the_breathtaking_arrogance_of.php
IMO, a simple injunction to freeze the club finance on the grounds of mis-management,(in the interests of the supporters & community at large) investigate all concerned -whilst register the 50-100,000 fans & celebrities collect their funds and start the Supporters tale-over..its simple BUT needs proper co-ordination and I am not in LP..
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CS>There are young, or distant, Naive people who can claim an excuse
- BUT TOO many people CHOOSE to LOOK THE OTHER WAY
(attn GW! ....) THE CROOKS who cheated US, and the bankers who bled
us dry appointed Broughton, Purslow who replaced a GOOD man
who gave us 24/7 with a yes man...and thats the story of our club and
the World at large...
OB2>28 October at 22:01 Report
huh...let me check your links tomorrow, hope I will understand all.
Chris, I am not some talker, you know :) but I am very simple person,
for that reason not easy for understanding nowadays.
so let me introduce myself ( I could try, at least; cooking and ironing
at this moment).
music is my "language" mainly. as I have no more enough time for reading
poetry and other, I am trying to communicate by music.
married for 15 years (in same relationship for 24 years!!), no kids
(long, unpleasant story), technology engineer, working as production manager
in coating factory Zvezda-Helios. Not happy that much but always traying
to think possitive. Joyful person. Few longtime friends in my life, love
them very much. not enough time to be with them as I like. not religious
in conventional manner. openminded (I think so). Love people, especially
those who deserve it. Love to travel, love summertime.
to be continued tomorrow :) give me a hint in which direction...
sweet dreams xxxx
sat
FB from OB
& GW-rong..
woke 07
up 09
shop e10
11 csi ny on tv
12h big matcvh b-up
walk in sun..
because they havent the ball s to challenge
me themselves..
"to whom it may concern" ...I am sorry to
have used such terms
to an ex-mate, and should anyone other than
the intended recipient read it,
I can only suppose he hass been infected by
the fx4 plague..(fast-food=ficklefans)
I came back from the pub after a fair few
bevvies, just to see his sarcastic
comment after I had politely told him to "go
away" he didnt..
and YES I , like anyone else (who has an opinion,
have the right and the power to distribute it, argue it, and challenge
others who disagree with it worldwide on any forum block website that I
or others might open to discussion ...
many "editors" MSN, facebook and authorities
("cia") have bombed my pages, messages with virus, rootkits, and other
"nasties" in an attempt to shut me down or up...;) , I shall continue until
I leave this planet, so dont worry - that may be sooner than later!...
fri OCT 29
utibe connolly etc
bed01 h
woke 07
up 08
shave / shower
fb / thIsAn ...
....11-13h
coffee/snack/cola e3
FB Blogging...
GWright>Chris,I,like many, support a football club,not a political argument.What is so special about "YOUR OPINION"?
CSof course in the "mainstream" of media BS and hodgsons buddies who fail to notice that everything they blamed on rafa, THEY have given RH "slack" ...my "opinion is worth only that of a mree Supporter" but , and it may surprise you that there are many more supporters around the world that are NOT suckered in to the bullsh*te that elected an inferior man like hodgson ..its too easy graham to "attcack" the messenger rather than deal with the facts that you & your buddies are & were wrong.. I for one will honour & fight for the IDEALS (which you call "political" ) that were instilled in LFC when Shanks pulled the club out of the sh*te...
but as you wont listen to me...
Re: Its all rafa's fault, look at the team he has left behind...>
(Quote from: TheBombardier )
Some Rafa Facts to Remind Us of What We Lost and Why We Want Him Back (compiled by Paul Tomkins)>
20h no slobo/mladen
jene bday -slavko had me moved, touched her arm & shoved it away
c-nt
e10 @ delboys
e6 @ irish/treba
..
4x L other Jelena ...danced, with couple, she paid? 2 beers (my mobile/flag/scarf)
back to dels to say "C U next tuesday"
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O.Biga
CS>Hiya kidder!
thought maybe the "cia" had blocked me again, can be them or just that
I have been alien-hated by all those that read my blog attacks on the "human"
race...<smile>
geat film clip - vibrant beat. sympathy for fishermen?..hmmm..my grandad was a coast guard in Gb, I grew up by the sea and loved to swim under water, so peaceful like another universe - my dream is to wander the world on a boat - just moving when bored.
"status" ..I campaigned for "stateless"" ..<smile>
.i opened a bottle of CG cabernet last night -still got 2/3rd to consume tonight, Ill drink a glass to you and my dream boat...and i wonder if any lady would be crazy enough to be my mate on board, what do you think ?.
.do you know anyone who might be strong enough to cope with me?;)
my best times are with good wine good food, good company with good stories to tell each other .. a game for 2 or 10 ..
yes its a beautiful sea, i see!
sweet dreams x
p.s sorry I seem to be writing MUCH more than you...please tell me something about you..but not nothing!..?
thurs 28 oct
01 h bed
woke 07
up -08h
run
shower bath/shave
tea
10h Fb/Liverpool echo/post BS!
11h a S-J
coffee/snack e 3
memory stick e15???
12-14h copy
email Ana etc / ian ref 2010 ...Not with out MONTY???
fb.emails
15h siesta
Lfctv
20h tv
?blogging - prep...
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WED 27 Oct.
bed 02.30 Have I got news ..utube
woke 05h 07h banging..upstairs ..ok
up10.30h
fb/etc
11h shop e10 cash
12-14h Lfctv/FB
tv/siestA
15h emails
PIZZA
16h tv
17h Lfc tv/et
20h tv
utube/lfctv
tv
23 film
01 bed
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tues 26 Oct
bed 02(Wx2!)
woke often ->07
up 09h
Run/steps@Kver x 100
10h FB/email (ana@Brit) 4 kids
Dear Ana,
I hope you received my reply concerning meeting thursday 11h ?
rather than "load" you with any "agenda" I think its best to just chat
about "general possibilities" perhaps
to know if & how I could encourage orphaned , poor or disadvantaged
children/teenagers, whats been done, and what could be done, in co-operation
with local people?
11-13 Lfc tv 2-1 bburn atlas pl highlights on tv
13h FB/ngozi bye / etc emails
lfctv
fb/email
siesta
tv
17h twits etc /Lfc tv
..
replay chelski 0-1 Lfc 2008 (with jd)
21h tv/adh
(stoppped
fb/emails
22h-02h utube
storm..
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tues 26
mon 25 oct
bed 01h
woke many times ..dreams?
up 09
FB load up on CS album - mess2NAG, donbt discuss visit
11h shop e8
post2 JM/nesv? 1e (other cost e2 = e4 inc prints)
12 tv?
Mrs smith ->NAG
FB/Lfc not connecting?
OlivBranch
brunch
Lfc Tv
reply bburn
siesta
tv
17h Lfc tv
20h tv / adhe
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"When I'm deep inside of me
don't be too concerned.
I won't as for nothin' while I'm gone."
sun 24 oct
bed 02 (W!)
woke 05, 07,
up 09h
run
washing mach.
10h FB/emails /LFctv/RAWK
15h build up/
net v bburn
4000 holes?
18h..Lfctv?rawk
..
no dels?
20h/ N
"When I'm deep inside of me
don't be too concerned.
I won't as for nothin' while I'm gone."
adthe - tv south park/house..
@Ellen, In a world that doesnt care if 25000 or more kids die every
day, we ALL need to do what is RIGHT,openly with courage, for the kids
& everyone, theres just a simple lack of care & honesty, and if
people , ALL people acted honestly instead of being greedy, scared or feeding
their own personal bias we could start to improve all matters (inc
ther problems of kids)
the articles of the universal declaration of human rights, which is
simple to learn should be the FIRST thing children learn (at home! before
school) and NOT the LAST thing that officials apply at court or government..or
anywhere else!
sat 23 oct
03 bed (W!)
woke 07
up 10h
shower/shave
11h emails/fb
BcR>CS11023
I had hoped that by now you would realise how passionate I am about
my "BIG RED FAMILY" ,,as I dont any family any more anywhere to love, I
love my REDS..and those who truly support them..
most times I like a laugh but,..
the joke is an old one and we tell is about everton or the mancs, that
you chose to tell it against us at a time when we are "hurting" over the
damage done to our club by the backstabbing "suits" and our mates beign
stabbed in Napoli and in the middle of discussion about estranged &
abused kids ...did NOT make me smile, and thats me , being honest AS USUAL...is
nothing to do with "punishment"
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> http://www.facebook.com/n/?permalink.php&story_fbid=117926508268680&id=665480738&mid=32bd35fG27aa6e22G6eb7835Ge&n_m=ball_can_reds%40mypod-net.org
>
12-16 BLOG? ricult ...fight? pt 4
coffee/shop/snack e 5 cash
17.30
build up
tv
Dels?
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fri 22 oct
bed 01 tv
woke 07
up 09
run
10 h shave /shower
fb...
Ngozi
/
"in association with E.L.S.U.N. ; EuRED Liverpool
Supporters (overseas) , UNION Network ; "Balkan REdS" & "ZReDS"
and to better organise & support all Global Reds, individuals,
groups, (UNofficial) supporters club & Lfc fan groups - we are inviting
members (if they have not PREVIOUSLY done so) to jon "Ko(0)p UNltd ; Shanks'
ARK ("All Red Kop") ..IMO this SHALL progress true Global REdS ownership
& resolving of various complaints,equal rights; credit union;
travel & ticket issues, etc etc "
join @ the link on the wall
administrators or other friends , please translate into your preferred language and add to OUR E.L.S.U.N "balkan REdS" wall..
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11.30-13.30 coffee with dinos son
fb/lfctv
15h siesta
16 snacks ; e4 cash
17hFB/Lfc tv?rawk etc
Ellun/Ngozi
keep on fighting Ellen..the best way to protect kids is to stop people
participating in the BS...from education to school, to business to "courts"
where winning is more important than truth..
people should stop focussing on appealing to or via their system, make
own media, oppose at every opportunity , refuse to participate, boycott
and all available non-violent obstruction, inc no-taxes & risk of detention..
and..you arent likely to be an "honaray" RED if you post jokes about
Liverpool supporters on my wall! ..i stop smiling when ever discussing
my absent kids and the apathy of 99.99% of people who dont do a thing
to improve the world they live in! ..
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Olivera Biga 22 October at 17:28 Report
we are both seta. but not in the same time. luckily.
jewish people say: when you think that there is no way out, there are
always 4 solutions! hm..
enjoy the evening
CS>i am what my deceased wife called a "cynical optimist" ..I realise that many things seem impossible, I know the mountains that needed to climb are too slippery, with a weight on my back..but Ill start climbing anyway, theres a saying in my culture "when you go through hell, keep going" ..enjoy yourself! x
Lfctv/awk/FB
21h-03 @ dels e25 with 3man but no Mlad!
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thurs 21
bed 01 ( nashville film on tv)
woke/up 09h
fb/etc
11-12h
coffee@minas / shop / brunch (pizza/cola) = e2
FB
-IMO "when all about you are losing their heads" YES hodgson must go,
now, but the intelligent
thing to do is put Kenny in charge, right now, as he knows the club
inside out, has "done it" before
(won the english league 4 times with Lfc & Blackburn where Rh failed!)
..and knows the internal "politics" & players )
would be difficult for someone like frank to just come in to the most
demanding job in footy, hope I am wrong..
and some one fresh makes us great again, because we need a positive
imrovement on & off the field..)i would rather
wait for Rafa (who proved his class again last night!)
not in todays society western europe is pro-female, I had 54 complaints
at levels of court, when I won she disappeared and the police do nothing,
she moves to another country i start all over again, and the police do
nothing, i have been to all levels of court, started organisations all
across europe , researched and chased across europe//and the authorities
do nothing, I have been to ECHR (strasbourg) hague & EU parliament
and they do nothing..why? because fathers are not seen as "victims" by
western society..even though 25 / 1 complaints are by men..so mothers realise
that they can do what they want and no policeman in western europe /USA
etc will ever arrest them for breaking a custody agreement or court order!
and society ingeneral dont care that 25-30,000 kids die every day so
why expect society to care that my child is stolen?
lfctv/rawk
RTCG 2 nap 0 - Lfrc 0
jonjo ..lane , pepe, skrtel, kelly, =Gd Ng, spear,fabio =ok bab,
carra, sotos, konch, cole, poul.. =hmmm
olivera b>21 October at 21:14 Report
it sounds scary and helplessly dear. I have nothing clever to tell
about it, except that the life's going on. chace the trace, someday your
dother will be old enough to confront the fact and situation.
and be brave!
sleep tight xxx
cs>maybe she will , maybe sg will never know me, but anyway no one can replace what i lost not being a father to her., so i spend my energy on other, only someone who has the same can understand.i ts nothing to do with bravery, its about care & empathy without sympathy, i just want other people to learn not to do it , goodnight x
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00vcpbp/Law_in_Action_What_next_for_the_family_courts/
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wed 20 Oct
G PENNYfather bday!!!
woke 07 after dream of margit?, russhing "water broken" ..
slept/dreamt again, bus following my car with ???(woman) ..going to
house, somewhere east?..but stopped
eb route, by "govt messenger" stopping,,the house is now occuoied by
another (girl I liked)..woke 10.30?
shower/tea/bread
11h.FB..
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ChriS SmiTH Ngozi, I didnt ever get a reply from Annika , I sent emails
& postcard about if my son (Leon) got/understood the Lfc membership
- she ignores my emails (or they dont get to her)...if you want to try
one day, via email. I would appreciate just to know if He received birthday
presents (I re-sent the parcel from Liverpool last month, when I was there!)gozi>
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Good morn,N, if U were not just joking about visiting you could share
my small place, I can take the couch, you can have my bed..
- the local airport (podgorica) is near, but I dont know if you can
afford the flight..easy jet sometimes fly to
Dubrovnik , but its a seasonal service - so The last cheap flight from
london (?) is on november 1st - you could reteurn cheap
via wizz-air from Belgrade (that then needs a long bus ride ,
so is the 3rd choice) ..but if U have nt got a passport!
..dont worry be happy
(I returned my own passport to B-liar in 98 in protest & lived
5 years without a national ID, thats another story..
you are an adult so travel..is a risk for you to decide!
;)
.. 20 October at 11:17
Thanks very much, Luka,
I would look around in december for a flat , but anyway...
who is (still) going on the train to Buch?
...
because I was thinking to come to you 2 or 3 days of days before we
are supposed to leave..would that be OK?
do you still watch the games sometimes with Ivan at the Belgrade sports
bar?
Luka>
Benitez inherited a squad which was weak and turned it into europes
best (2 Cl finals , semi & qrt finals in 5 seasons) and the best league
position in 20 years!http://tomkinstimes.com/2010/10/crisis-part-one-hypocrisy-hodgson/!!..
Hansen knows about as much as RH, all these ex players, good on the
park, but could not hack it at the highest level of management , so go
into (easy) media!
http://tomkinstimes.com/2010/10/crisis-part-one-hypocrisy-hodgson/
--
15h "late lunch @ sunca = different waitress tried r-off (hamburger,
chips, minisalad , bread, cole =e 5 inc expresso
16h FB
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theres no smiley with that comment...?
Ngozi, please just be honest with me, becaues despite all the "fear-less"
warrior -like confrontation, I have been really hurt when I let anyone
get too close, or i get close to them..
the last (Dutch blond) girlfriend I had ripped me off..very nasty girl
who even came as witness with me when I tried to find Noela but turned
against me..
earlier this year another woman who was involved in the "parents" movement
wanted to visit me, but when I said I cant "guarantee" anything..she got
cold feet..
whatever I am, I am the same entity as I was before & shall
be ..whilst I am alive, good or bad, this is me..
(one of my favourite songs = "honesty" by B. Joel)
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O BIGA dobro vece Chris :)
fine, thank you :) seta is always present in human mind, no need to
worry about it. it's creative emotion.
how are you, any new decision today?
so, what was on the screen? still remember?
going to sleep earlier tonight, tired.
sleep well :) xx
ChriS SmiTH 20 October at 22:51
yes I rember, in the first dream my german ex girlfriend was pannicking
about having a baby , the last thig she said before I woke up was "my waters
broke" , i went back to sleep and had a longer film about leading a bus
load of "activists" across n.est europe until some government messenger
stopped the leading car i was in with a different female partner, who seemed
more warm and close, although i cant see her face, the messanger told me
that the charity house we were travelling to had been sold by the govt
to a girl i fancied some time before..<smile> ...then i woke up this
morning..!
...goodnight..sweet dreams :) xx
INTER 4-2 v spurs 4-9 h-t was just like res of 8/9 season..
tv
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Tues 19 oct
bed 02h (W x2!!)
dreams about gay ..living together arguement..then searching for Noela
in various parts of some massive toy-games
adventure park, with towers , and ..big problems finding sarah..or
Noela, they sort of merged,
at the top of tower 7..Sarah/Noela lost..then woke up
09h
shave/shower / tea
11019
Ngozi Angeline Godwell 19 October at 10:00
Report
I am not sure which email you have: ngozigodwell3@hotmail.com please
resend the information. thanks and have a fab day Chris!
cS>
ChriS SmiTH 19 October at 10:21
Hiya N no info, just to explain that Noela was 3 -on 28 november will
be 9
, and that yes, i AM bitter, and often mistrust (rightly) the reasons
people ask me about my losses, they want to "talk" about it..re-assure
me, which they cant, because I have been active on these subject since
10 years or more and the problems are deeply routed in society, media bias
and apathy, fear & greed rule, and I especially sick & tired of
people setting up "services" that mere end up in more meetings , discussions
and "fame" for those who appear in the media..and actually are NEGATIVE.....because
they suck people into thinking they are actually improving and distract
the potential of confronting the problems of society and actively changing
them..!!
NAG> 19 October at 15:08 Report
<smile> a big tight hug, which then will turn into a cradle .....
haunted and hug are two words you have used that describe how I feel, what
I am. Yes, I would hug you and then I will start crying for both of us.
Chris, how can I actively change things, by fighting?? any changes made
are usually those to do with covering the mistakes of the wrong doer ;-0
My day has been lazy, I needed it. Everyday for two years i wake as
if my pants are on fire, I did the same this morning, so i decided to chill.
So what is your day saying so far and what is the time? How can u re assure
you, when my pain is the same as yours all I can do is enjoy the hugs we
will give each other and remain loyal in our fight for change. I am sick
of hearing one day you and your child will.... the years are lost.. how
can it get easier??? I am filing again in the RCJ, again. Every loop whole
I exploit it and I hit a brick wall, I bet you know the feeling. My case
is in the ECHR, deadline is real near. I should have focused on this only,
but I believed in justice. Still no email????
I wonnder who will hug each other the tightest ;-)
CS>19 October at 15:33
sometimes its just a small comfort to exchange with someone who has
the same pain & "feelings".. I fight them many ways, the "art of war"
when you are small is surprise..so I wont tell U, as "they" almost certainly
fear anyone who dares stand up and say "no" good luck with ECHR . I want
you to win, but. in a way rather U expose their hypocrisy too /sorry!/
12 years I battled with the ECHR they gave me a "case number" then turned
it down on a "technicality" (basically germoney palyed ping-pong with my
files and the ECHR betrayed their promise to allow my direct complaint..its
run by lawyers & political/busines interest, need I say more ..
I usually go to Liverpool when I go back to GB..not only for footy but because there are more HUMAN(e)s there than anywhere else I know. people who care and have heart..but even they are being trod on, which accounts for my global battle v the "suits" too..
but, if I come via London area, will U meet me, and find out who hugs the most! ? <smile> may your god be with you, YNWA!
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O.Biga
i am not in Bar (its just in my culture to live in a place called "bar"
is really funny..I am staying in Pg (capital of "Monty") ..and I
really dont want to be here at heart of winter, xmas & new year, because
I am alone, and this is no place to be alone @ "family time/party time"
..
people here dont usually invite "aliens" to home parties , and as I
lost my own family I want to go somewhere where I know more people (well
at least more "facebook friends" are in N. Sad & Beograd)
are you from Cacak?. is it close to the frontier with montenegro?
i should research it..
what am i searching fo? .. here or anywhere on this planet, same as always ;, intelligent life ..but also that "cares"!
("galaxy so
grrrr...I wrote a letter this morning from work and lost it somehow????
yes, I know you lost your family. the upcoming part of the year is
the most critical due to feeling of loneliness, I understand what you wanted
to tell. yes, Cacak is my hometown, about 200kms on the north from border
with Montenegro. small town, nothing special. Belgrade is near enough for
editional contents. but...Novi Sad is my favorite place :) so, if you can
choose place to stay during the winter, it could be right choice. Possible
that we could stay few days there from january 4 to orthodox cristmas.
don't try to find the english word for seta, I think you can't find
it, even your language has 10x more words. it's part of specific orient
heritage and sensibility, a mixture of nostalgy, sadness, reconciliation,
wisdom at heart :)
pls wait to find something....
coming soon :) ng")
19 October at 23:30
thanks for the message (you may also be "cia-censored?) for contact
with a REBEL like me?>? , very thoughful would be nice to meet u, i n Cacak
or N. Sad.....who is "we" ..?..there a lot of depth in the humour..
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10h-15h FB etc ..
pm coffee??no shoppy /print post to yorky street socksboss e4 cash
16h siesta
17h no lfctv, Fb messages blocked
BS on LFC tv ..all clips f*cked
exchanged with Ngozi..
18-22h fb/rawk etc
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mon 18 oct
raek/tomkins
bed 01h
write g.marcotti???
woke 09
fb/blog Uncensored..
?
10 coffee @ minas
11h shopping e5
12-15h RAWK etc..
snack
..walk cfee
17-21hLfctv/RAWK etc
21h save Lfc t-shirt to Slavko..
22h tv
Lfctv..this is anfield ..anti roy creeping in..
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most of the people reading this on the net,
"tut tut" and even send money etc , and think they "care" ..the truth is
by contributing via commercial/materiam accumulation, ebergy excess and
waste of resources , 99.9% of "the west" led by USA are to blame...your
taxes fund government & business explaoitation of the "third world"
and the growth of the rich, at the expense of the growing divide of the
poor, making it almost a "crime" to "have not" ..teaching kids to tread
all over anyone in the rush to have the best material assets, IMAGE and
"bling"..few are innocent, change your world before you can change THE
world..
sun 17 Oct
bed 01h
woke/up 09h
10h run
edited/fb
brekkie/shower
13h dels/gal ; 1e
....Merseyside derby @ cafe
e6 beers veli/janko..
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sat 16 OCT
(e15 @ dels etc)
bed 04 (W!)
woke 07
up 09h
(offline & new Pword needed for FB?)
10-16h BLOGGING "heroes & villians"..
also virus attack after posting blog!!
snacks pizza/borek e 2 (in Rain)
game build up ?
tv
lfctv
tv
20h->24h Fb/RAWK/ twitter/Lfctv
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fri 15 oct
bed 00.30 (W!)
woke / up 05-07h FB ref....
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"SoS" ..sending out a messag in Willie's name?
Some call themselves SPIRIT of SHANKLY?
...I have to say, quite Frankly
that I think its a CRIME
(i 'll try to make this rhyme!)
apart from a march
& a concert @ St. George's hall
they have not done fecking much at ALL
Bill would have taken control
taken foes by scruff of the neck
the Peoples man had courage
by fecking heck!
Suppoters who claim "We are the Club"
let me tell you..
this is the rub..
Its up to global REDS to take command
not some brief, some lawyer,
or other hand..
his Spirit lives, heres my tip...
in HIS name fight for (full) Owner-ship
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10h tea
10.40-12.40 S47?
13h...
although I dont want ANY owner other than our own supporters, I cant see how Mills can come int the frame..
IF my house or car was re-possesed, for non payment of a loan and then sold to someone else, and I turn up afterwards and try to get the car or housxe back form the new owner to by paying the loan (late) after a court had confirmed the sale - I cant imagine anyone having any truck with me..
IF Mills succeed , i would recommmend EVERYONE in the world who has ever had a car or house re-possed when they were skint going back & contesting ...over to you Mr smartass!
...and...
....often...the best form of defence is attack- join the global REDS supporters injunction/"class action" V Hicks & all our foes..
www.eured.wordpress.com
and on Kop Unlmited ; Shanks ARK group...
through wind & rain...WE ARE THE CLUB!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=183999854031
verton boss David Moyes was being interviewed about how the rebuilding of his team was progressing.
"How far do you think you are from a European Cup-winning team?" asked one reporter.
"About half a mile", replied Moyes. ;D
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13-21h takeover
(apart from siesta 16-17h)
@ dels
(e15 drinks inc snack on way hme in RAIN!)
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Thurs 14 oct
bed 00 -sleep 01
woke 05h & 07
up 09h
all day on Lfc@court etc/
10h RUN/shop 04e cash
Lfc@court etc - class action?
15h - letter ref s47 / coffe @ minas e 1.30
more Lfc@court
18h-20h -reflections part 2 36-56( send to M)
tv
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Texan Hicks & his buddy have just been
"smacked" in the london high court ( htttp://eured.wordpress.com
) all these fraudsters made in the USA,.."land of the fr..AUD! &
home of the....cheats & liars"..this is the result of the "USA's selfish,
step onanyone to get what you want" american dream,..now a NIGHTMARE for
the world...!
wed 13 Oct
bed 03H ?
woke 07,09
up 11h
shop/e3 / brekkie
12-14h ...High court RBS v G & H...
a simple injunction to freeze the club finance on the grounds of mis-management,(in the interests of the supporters & community at large) investigate all concerned -whilst register the 50-100,000 fans & celebrities collect their funds and start the Supporters tale-over..its simple BUT needs proper co-ordination and I am not in LP..
14-16h updating http://eured.wordpress.com ...
siesta
17-19h Lfc Tv/rawk etc
tv
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tuesd 12 oct
bed 01 (film green onions)
woke 07
up 08,30
fb/emails
ref takeover etc
coffee@ minas
shop e9 cash
12-14 prep "reflections
Lfctv/court etc
16 siesta
"reflections on web"
Lct vt
20-03h eng 0- Monty 0 no mina?
eng-er-lund v monty REDS 0-0 -Hungover, but I am MADE up for the good local lads, with ehom I celebrated their well won point @ wem-ber-ly last night , hey Fabio (& Woy) THATS a passionate & MOTIVATED team for you, from a land with a populatio of less than half of merseyside!
20e drinks
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mon 11 oct
woke 07
up 08h
tea/fb
09h run/bath
10h Fb/eured emails
11h shop e5#
Yeah, they are really patriarchal, they are friendly and polite, but
a bit reserved..
I agree about the ladies xD
Montenegro is very very interesting country, and they are interesting
people, but I wouldn't like to live there xD
So what do yo...u really do, what brings you to that far far away land? xD
My dreams...
Well I started learning English when I was 4 and my whole life I wanted
to go to England, and, this may sound strange, but I have always felt like
I belong there, you know.. So my biggest dream is to live in England :))
And yeah, why not I like finances :DD
I would like to be rich, and who knows maybe buy the thing I love most
one day, LFC :D
But that's just a dream :))See more
14 hours ago · LikeUnlike
#
ChriS SmiTH
?....do you know the film "pulp fiction" ?...the character "Jules"
..at the end what he decides to do? in 1995 i woke up from a coma, and
decided not to continue my "business life"..because I had got a "new chance"...so
i do this, if you re...ad my blog it tells you what I do..
in my first life I organised new ventures, networked enterprises around half the world and connected people & since 1995 I do something similar but not for money, as a volunteer, I promote Lfc, organise REds meetings start new clubs and try to support people with their "dreams"
....but only if I like them...as I do it by choice not for money, not for profit..but because i can..I life modestly , I am not rich...(and I suggest that you DONT want to be rich , maybe you want a lifestyle similar to rich people...?)
anyway, I like the thoughts on your wall..do you want my help? :)
lfctv
--
12h tv ...
13h FB/etc ..film with K bacon (disturbed. gets girl!)
14-16 Lfc tv Liddellpool
siesta
FB/eured
18 Lfc tv
fb/eured/rawk
20h tv
21-22,30 Lfc tv ..anne of anfield, Kenny, kids q to SG
tv
fried green onions,.film kathy bates, lass from weeds & blond;mary
stuart masterson? jess tandy
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10 oct
sun , 10,10 ,20-10
woke 07 (eured mails)
up 10
coffee/corn flakes
11-14h blog
http://eured.wordpress.com/2010/10/10/title-no-go-flo-so-continuing-story-of-life-of-brian-on-the-titmanic-beware-of-jaws/
lfctv tv
15h coffee/pizza , karevr-city park..
in sunshine
16 h tv
17h fb/..
sos etc...
#
Ana Anee Vasilijevic I saw it today, it's great :D
I'm curious, what are your impressions of Monty? :D
2 hours ago · LikeUnlike
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ChriS SmiTH
thabjs very much,,,hmmmm
i wonder who might read this..I am sure my messages are "monitored" <smile>
;)
...
almost everyone thinks I am a spy, so thats what I say now when asked
why I am here, people are "friendly" but I have only been invited into
one home in the collective time , this year a total of 8 months in "Monty"
..so although friendly there is a mistrust of "aliens" - I dont see any
negros in montenegro...
the ladies are beautiful but I only see very young, dressed either like fashion models or (excuse me) "prossies" ..they act as if they are "available" but reaklly I think they are nuns in disguise (lol) ..
cars are king and are parked everywhere , and often block the pathways
and imageis very important , obviously rich people are adored, but i think
they want to secretly be themselves but are too insecure, its a challenge
here, I have had some disputes..people breaking promises and I am not used
to their "spontaneous" aspect
(its ironic if I say that they tell me sunday if we are to meet saturday
- the day before! <smile>
but its different for me, The Balkans is the only part of europe I didnt know before..so ...its an adventure..but I will need to have a pause - I probably will visit REDS in Beograd & sKOPje in december because it will not be much fun to be here in pg at xmas, I fear..
and you?
.... tell me more ..what have you done this weekend?
have you dreams of the future? do you really want to be a "serious"
financial person.. ;) ?
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LFCtv
19h ?
tv
____________________________________________
to SS ref S47
firstly I find it (typically) AMZING how "property owners" are SO quick when they WANT something, but how many delays did I have before you responded to MY complaints?
not least have you forgot any humanity,????
you have made no apologies for anyof the problems your neglect caused
- no care about my health, ONE reason I was interested to stay in warmer
climate (such as Balkans) was due to regular attacks of bronchitis each
winter, and the rain/storm flooding of the aparrtment ; causing damp in
the living & bed room is a risk.
- no care about damage to 40 year old valuable souvenir "collectors
items"
- no care about damp/condensation causing damage to my Laptop
ref Tv.
- I have paid promptly any tv / internet bills
- you ask for 30 euros BUT when I arrived you told me the cost was
TWENTY euros per month
THUS I have OVERpaid (total 120 e ) when it should be e100!!! - you
owe me e20 for that too
ref electricity
I worked on the garden at your request becuase your son was absent
and could not make the "promised cut " each 10 days..
- I do not pay "for the house" - the neighbours have no meter???
- you gave me wrong invoices in the past!!!
(how do I know this copy is correct?)
- extra electricity caused by cutting the grass -
for your benefit!
you owe me over 100 euros for the my belongings that you keep (I asked you to pass to Nenad, but you did not)
I also RESERVE a counter-claim for 500 euros in case its proven that damage to my Laptop is caused by the damp/condensation (through rain/storm flooding the living room)
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sat 9 oct
Monty 1 swiss 0 (friday) wit Veli & Slobo + 3 merian? + 1 manc
!! who dont believe
delboys e40 + burek e1
bed 04h
woke 06, 08 & eventually up 12h (owners voice
"sometimes I wanna run for cover,sometimes
I want to SCREAM!
No I don't claim to be a wiseman,a poet or
a saint,
I'm just another man who's searching for a
better way..
But my heart beats loud as thunder for the
things that I believe, "
12-13 teas/bath, wash clothes
13-15h FB etc..
.#
ChriS SmiTH s-KOP-je! ...nice!
about an hour ago · LikeUnlike
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????? ?????????? really nice and we expect you Chris again this winter
about an hour ago · LikeUnlike ·
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ChriS SmiTH ok then get the others together & we can meet ..december???
can you organise a reds party around the "holy-days".. :)
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Hiya Dix,
I sent you several personal messages ..but the "cia" <smile>
(and your next door neighbour?) still delay, block or "lose" a lot of my
stuff and this email address is my 4th choice , so I only read your email
today ..9th october!
sorry you have the knee problem again..I hope that your social/insurance still support you?..
pity I am now only about 2/3000 kms away so cant "pop in" for a chat & a cofffee <smile>
I was also a bit "p*ssed" that I got no message from you & I am angry with Leo, because we could have done a lot this summer - especially with our global supporters/union "boycott" of the official Lfc shop..we are fighting for supporters ownership..
at the moment I am still in "Monty" ..funny that their national footy
team have now gone top of the group 3 points ahead and are so succesful
since I am here!!! ...the demise of Lfc on the field has been a "help"
to our campaign, and we dont trust the "NESV" either..
especially AS THERE are 17 (unknown) investors behind John Henry..we
wont give up whatever happens and i went to my last game at anfield for
a while..so at least it may take as long to heal ..as your knee ..I WISH
YOU GOOD HEALTH..
this was a disaster week , with the Lfc news, a rain storm flooded my
living room and I have had to take temp accomodation still here but smaller..anyway
..please KEEP in touch, my BLOG (pod) has changed...you DO have time now
to read it , sorry!
http://eured.wordpress.com
cya!
p.s. toms really pised me off by giving my stuff away, but thats between him and me!! ..oh and take care of the Rafa photo ..(he may well be coming back , we wanted Kenny after Rafa was forced out abut they ignored 90% of the supporters wishes and appointed Woy, who is only a "pawn" of the new regime (chelki fan broughton, Purslow can please leave with Gillet & Hicks)))
oh and maybe one day we will use the "friendship" cup for a balkans
5-a-side (next year , U can come with Mrs Dix for a cheap holiday here...?)
all the best!
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Dirk Matthe <dirk.matthe@telenet.be> wrote:
Well hello stranger,
Still no mail send directly to me! I have no idea
were you are for the moment,i guess still in the Balkan area?
How are you?
I had a lot of bad luck! Working accident on 1sept. destroyed my knee again! Same injury's like previous time,and 95% change on another operation! I've cursed a lot,why could'nt that be the other knee.
About the potential order:that's between you and
Leo.
About the shirt: it was allready in Poland,but when
we ordered our football sets,i asked Leo to get it back to me. I still
did not got it,but i'll remind him later on,i still need to get carrier
bags for the shirts!
I would have expected a personal mail,regarding what's
happening with you,instead of looking on your pod.(i don't always do that,not
into that stuff)
Keep in touch,and stay healty!!
Dix
----- Original Message -----
From: ChriS Dix
To: lvhag
Cc: Dirk M
Sent: Saturday, September
18, 2010 12:46 PM
Subject: BcR-Z MY 10918
ELSUN Re: mp 100130 Re: LiBhn 100129 ChriS-Leo
ChriS> Leo , Dix
still no answer..9 months later!!!
a) quotation for the potential
order below..
b) whats happened to MY
shirt I LENT Leo ??
ChriS
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:51 AM, EdAgN@eured-san.net <EdAgN@eured-san.net> wrote:
tx
Dix, it was difficult to read on the flyer; letters too close
together..I ll tell Leo, next time that some of us supporters dont have
20/20 vision... :o
Original
Message:
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From: Dirk M
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:33:49 +0100
To: EdAgN@
Subject: Re: LiBhn 100129 ChriS-Leo
Hi Chris,
I received it ok,but Leo's e-mail is not correct i think!!
It
should be : lvhag@
See you sunday
-----
Original Message -----
From: <EdAgN@e
To: <dirk.m
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:05 PM
Subject: FW: LiBhn 100129 ChriS-Leo
Hiya
Dirk, please tell me if U got this too?...and if Leos email is correct?
cu sunday..
Original
Message:
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:02:24 -0500
Subject:
LiBhn 100129 ChriS-Leo
ChriS>hello Leo
further to our meeting this morning, and thank you for your time,
on behalf of our european REDS supporters network we agree
1.
you use my Lfc shirt for info, and produce a sample design/and an offer
for 500 "supporters shirts" (printed design) - with attached Logo/emblem
- 100 with Gerrard 8
- 100 with Torres 9
- 300 without name
2.
100 white t-shirts with embroidery - same logo/emblem (LiverBird/YNWA)
in RED
3. 100 scarves with "LIVERPOOL" white on RED with (RED) emblem at each end
4. 100 caps in our RED - with same emblem - (gold?)
5. 100 woolley hats in our RED - with same emblem -
please confirm your receipt of this email..
my
sms is 0032 491 078 776 (but unreliable)
or in urgent situation contact Dirk
have a good weekend
best
wishes
YNWA!
ChriS
CS/co-founder/co-ordinator
EuREd/ZReDS - postal address;
B2180 Ekeren, Antwerpen, Be.
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16h Lfctv /RAWK..etc..
tv/net etc
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fri 08 oct
jan o keefe
..ah well we always pay for the good times,
one way or another eh?..early in the week there was a rain/storm, and although
I had complained to the owner about a leak in the living room window frame,
he hadnt sorted it, it literally fell down monday night and despite mopping
and "sand bagging" with towels & bed sheets I couldnt stop it as it
was rainign heavy almost 24hrs (the street was like a river) ..
i had to sleep a coupel of hours and int he
morn..the carpet was soaked, the owner said he would sort it, but as I
had to make a decisiion to save my stuff (including my beloved collection
of Lfc match programmes going back to the "good old days" ..I have changed
accomodation, ferrying my stuff by taxi, I am sorted now, but I missed
this weekends invite to go to the Italian Reds annual meeting in Florence..anyway
, I am off to the pub "nags head" ..(got pics of delboy & rodney on
the wall) monetengro playing the swiss tonight so the local fans probably
in their later, so I can soak up a bit of 2nd hand atmosphere...well if
theres anything i have left out (lol) its on my blog... eured.wordpress.com
! have a great weekend kidder! x
friday 08 oct
bd 01 h (W!!!)
woke rwice pee
woke 07 up 08
8->11h FB /response Hansel & gretel (H &G)
* ldn protest, & sos 50k signing on?
G-cafe-pg? coffee 1.e
post/copy -> JS's soli/liar
re ph pen ------____________
shop cig/vino e4 cash
rice?
20h dels /veli
thurs 07 oct
woke many times -pack n.2 ..
08h taxi e5 s47-d25/2
unpacked ans sorted..
10h Fb
you & ally can contest that ..but my opinion
is that we are all responsible for each other in this fight..and..I will
ABSOLUTELY support & sponsor & participate in positive action for
supporter ownership and protest - and that means consequent protest including
boycotts that hurt them and are un comfortable to us like staying away
from the games & walk-outs etc, and target those responsible, there
are enough of them, gandhi proved that a mass of co-ordinated non-violent
(more courageous) action will stop even the biggest empire , (virtually
brought down the british empire to a stanstill) and that was with out the
internet ;) ...the facts are true without using basic abuse, but I can
accept that but thwn you start talkign about familes you tread dangerous
areas and "do unto others"..comes to mind..
11h coffee @ galxy cafe (mina)
12h shop -- 4 d25/2 e9 cash
lfctv /email ref Ital reds Firenze / S47
siesta
copy CDs onto Ltop ..@"eured 10"
16-19h Lfc tv
wed 06 oct ..sorry jacqui - R.I.P (30 years) & me !
bed 23h-sleep 01-02h?
woke to check window /rainstorm
woke 07 - up
wash (bed) clothes used for window in mach
shave / showe->centra
bnk -500 - 4 ELSUN share
10-12h cafe Gal e4 cash ..wifi/coffees
viait K15 sasa..e5 birthday girl saska?
taxi e3 -> toloshi s47
siesta
(NO pay SS 162e? )
bus .60 ->centar
14-16h e1/20 coffee /wifi
mina with me visit Dino @ D252
dino took me back to S47
17-18h pack 1
taxi s47-d25/2
- e460->Dino, 4 = D25/2
19h IN....d25/2
fb/Lfctv/rawk etc
23h->S47
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tues 5 oct
woke 07
up 08
RAIN FLOODED....
fb
Captain MONTGOMERY (MONTY") team wins Ryder
cup for EUROPE at CELTIC manor...beating the USA!!!
and "Monty"(Montenegro) is leading the "RE(d(Volution..
the only safe and honest future is Supporter
owned Lfc - all the rest is a short trem "fix" dont be fooled again..."The
spinners, yankers & bankers NOW call deomonstrati...ng True REDS "OIKs"
; yep ; we are ORGANISED INTERNATIONAL KOPITES, <SMILE>...if YOU CARE..get
a SHARE!... /-"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they
fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi ;)
CS
http://eured.wordpress.com/
pg, "Monty"..
09h
run...
shop//e9.
10h FB
11h tv
12h..LfcTv RAWK?
14h tv indiana film..
16h siesta
18h Lfc tv /FB..etc
mon 4 oct
bed 02 (W!)
woke 07 up 09
FB ,,,lots on Blog / fb emails..
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2010/10/03/liverpool-fc-fans-protest-march-video-100252-27392337/
They forced out Rafa ; they ignored our call for Kenny ; we will force THEM out, and replace Purslow, Proughton and the "pawn" Hodgson with honest & effective management. The "office" of LFC will HAVE to co-operate with us eventually, and we are also "ready" to negociate removal of "yankers & bankers" on OUR terms not theirs.
RED October Strategy - part 1..."first they ignore you"
...if YOU CARE, get a SHARE!
BLOG ; http://eured.wordpress.com/
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you,
then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi ;) *
MY 11004 RE: MY11001 Re: my 10929 ChriS->
Re: Graham Pennyfather commented on his Wall post.?
13:05
Aan graham pennyfather,
Van: EuRED -ZReDs09-10
Verzonden: maandag 4 oktober 2010 13:05:33
Aan: graham pennyfather
CC: BalKan REDS Bar/Balkans (ball_can_reds@mypod-net.org); ZRedS
Ze (zreds.ze@gmail.com)
ChriS>Hiya Graham
thanks for keeping me informed, even if its negative..
so many changes since I last saw you, apart from my "memoirs" (book) being sort of "serialised" on the blog http://eured.wordpress.com/
<smile> you cant wind me up about Lfc ..if you read my blog, the last thing I care about now is the "on field performances" we have started a RE(d)Volution to take over the club by the supporters , and in the worst way, the defeats are actually helping our cause,.,..sort of "cruel to be kind" effect..
so you must be "rich" with tickets for Chelski..I wanted ar*e-nal to win that one..im not a gunners fan, but being a RED and back with my socialist roots I want the "rent boys" to get beat, and generally want see all money-clubs like Chelski, man Ure, Real Madrid & so on in demise..
Barca, Bayern & benfica are supporter-owned, and if ever there was a club that should be owned by its supporters it is Liverpool..."end of rant" <smile>
pity you arent coming - I was a bit surprised when you indicated you would come over- most peoiple are scared of spending time with me! <smile> ...i am too radical for them and they also cant keep up, when I really "party" ....maybe that "gutache" is a sympton of worry, & your spirit needs a break from "surroundings" I often found moving away for a while gave me a fresh perspective, butr now i am a virtual "gypsy" <smile>
...sorry that you have problems but at least you have a "permanent home" & friends?...
I am alone, everyone has gone, no family or long-lasting (true) friendship..but on the positive side I dont answer to ANYOne..(not sure if I ever did..probably you were the last person on this earth to give me "orders" that I "obeyed" ) ha ha ha ..maybe thats why I wanted so much to see you again..and have a "boys party"...share some of this incredibly wild & beautiful country...if you cant leave your "wife" bring her too if she has a nice younger sister?
take care Graham, get well & be well..lifes too short for bullsh*te!
p.s
your birthday is on facebook, I use the net a lot - as the "cia" will
confirm...<smile>
From: gpennyfather
To: eured@live
Subject: RE: MY11001 Re: my 10929 ChriS-> Re: Graham Pennyfather commented
on his Wall post.
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 22:36:37 +0100
Hi Chris, As you can tell, after so many emails at work, I do not check
my home emails that often,
Athough they show on my blackberry and then I forget.
Anyhow, it is great to hear from you and I want to come over for a
few days but it’s not going to happen in the next few
weeks.
I am in a relationship that is not going that well at the moment and I’m seeing how that pans out. I am closing my office and
moving back to work from home, I have to see the doctor next week with pains in my gut and do you want me to continue.
Of course, there is the dog etc etc.
I’m not going to mention “Blackpool” and the bottom three but I’m sure
you will enjoy “Championship Football” – I’ll remind
you about the premier league. Getting tickets should be easier …..
I had tickets Chelsea V Arsenal for today’s match but I passed them
on.
will work out a time best for me to come over and I’ll see if
it’s okay with you.
I’ll keep you up dated with my next few weeks movements and we will
take it from there..
How do you remember my birthday,,,, even I try to forget.
Best wishes
Graham
From: EuRED -ZReDs09-10 [mailto:eured@live.nl]
Sent: 02 October 2010 23:42
To: gpennyfather
Cc: BalKan REDS Bar/Balkans
Subject: RE: MY11001 Re: my 10929 ChriS-> Re: Graham Pennyfather commented
on his Wall post.
hiya graham, did U get this?? you can stay as long as U like!
> From: ball_can_reds@mypod-net.org
> To: gpennyfather@
> CC: eured@live
> Subject: MY11001 Re: my 10929 ChriS-> Re: Graham Pennyfather commented
on his Wall post.
> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:47:00 +0200
>
> CS>ok, "boss" ..
>
> your birthday 20th october..?
> so, why not a longer weekend?..
> from 19-24 October? <smile>
>
> Graham, to be clear, I would love to have you visit me, & i will
plan my
> time around your visit so, come for as long as you like / or is convenient
> to you..
> cya
> ChriS
13h ..TV..
14-16h FB/Eured ...RED october etc/..v john sheehy..
Europe wins Ryder cup
16.30-17.30 siesta
18-19h Lfc tv
tv..switch ohff REDS until monr..never left the living room all day!!
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sun 3 oct
bed 02 (W!)
woke 07 up 09
fb
shop e3
11h brunch sat outside
13-16, FB/supernova etc etc emails / Lfc off field
Nane Reds 03 October at 14:36 Report
hi chris how r u..
in this msg i personaly want to thanks n appreciating ur effort for
LFC, but in fact i have enough cash to buy a share which i trully care.
Indonesia is not a rich country, might not as person to person, but as
a group we might be.. And im hope that with every peny that we're collecting
each games in each city would useful on ur campaign.. Gudluck n thx again
chris
& build up..Lfc tv
16 net?
1(kyriakos)(-2 blackpool
dont pray for new owners, its yOUR money that funds the club, so pressure
LFC & the bankers to work with us, its taken 2 years to get SoS/SLfc
organised and what we need now is the million + global fans to get behind
a supporter take over...wake up and realise this is the oNE chance in our
history to achieve this, if ever a CLUB should BE OWNED by its supporters
it is LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB>>>
protest & join the global REDS supporter take-over..this is y-our time!
"Oh Campione
The one and ONLY
we're liverpooooolll
...we are gonna take it over and kick you out the door
the GLOBAL RED supporters gonna make it like before"
"IF YOU CARE - buy a share" Support Global REDS via E.L.S.U.N
the story so far ; www.mypod-net.org/SuperNova.html
sat 2 oct
CS?(FB)Biljana Jov;
"did I disturb you?.sorry if I did? .I was a little bit drunk last
night..was difficult walking back to Toloshi ! <smile>, some "ex-friends"
had been acting stupidly (ignoring me like they never knew me before) ,
so I drunk a bit too much, and I was a little bit annoyed when you didnt
talk to me, because although I dont know you, you always used to smile,
and I like your smile..I dont have any friends in Montenegro, so I was
hoping to at least be able to talk to YOU!.....I dont understand if Drazen
is so jealous you allow him to talk to women - why cant you talk to me.(bit
I can understand that he is "protective" of you) ...although I do find
you VERY attractive..<smile> and I would like to dine with you or dance
with you again..but only if you are "solo" ...so in the meantime, take
care...
"
(jelena & slavko ignored me, no slobo)
back bed 03h ..FB to wildkid, Sean>?..bilja/?
up 09h shower/fb
10h zel meet ref s47..
11h cut lawn/grapes
12 brunch big joghurt
13h fb / email biljana?
to ; zsekulic
BcR>CS>Hello again "Z" without prejudice
good meeting this morning with you & your father - to clarify my
situation..@Skoja 47,Pg
Smoke- No more problems with the smoke..............from the neighbours
("distillery") , The smoke from the "distillery" was less yesterday and
the neighbour gave me a couple of glasses ( I gave him an LFc t-shirt)
so its "friendly" "nema problema! I was annoyed thurday because I had left
all the doors / windows open to air the Living room - to dry out after
the flood.the smok was filling the room.(by the way I had to turn the electric
heater on all night when I came back from my weekend in Liverpool)
Flood- There was minor water damage to some of the furniture, I was
worried about my laptop because of the damp, I hope it now works ok..
Bathroom -The water system doesnt always flush & I have to sometimes
run the tap water (maybe an air pocket in the system) and some of the grouting
(between the tiles) has worn out and I had some problems with insects but
I cleaned regularly with disinfectant and at the moment no big problems
there.
Door- Theres a small screw mising on the door handle - small problem
Payments - of course, you know the electric company made a mistake
with the electric meter 2 months ago, & last time I agreed to pay the
electric with the monthly - room, so i now suggest i will include the electric
cost in the monthly payment - let me know next week do you want me to stay
1 year? or not......when I moved in I shook hands on a 6 month stay - that
ends december 5 - so let me know if you want me to move in december or
january..or not..and as we discussed this morning, I receive a transfer
of funds every 3 months so I will pay the costs once every 3 months (for
example next month is november, when I get my transfer ) , so I would pay
900 euros inclusive for October, November & December)
hope all is clear now!
have a good weekend
CS
p.s. if you need any business advice - and I have time I will help
you - free - but you will have to feed me! <smile>
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es Broughton Gillett and Hicks OUT: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/8026467/Liverpool-manager-Roy-Hodgson-defends-fans-right-to-protest-following-Sunderland-draw.html
Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson backs fans' right to protest following
Sunderland draw
www.telegraph.co.uk
Liverpool 2 Sunderland 2
ChriS SmiTH BS, thats not what he was saying the day before the game! ..hes
employed by "spinners" ..and its like Purslow is writing his script - after
9000 protest, lets "agree" ..complete BS!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_2yKTqztBM&feature=player_embedded#!
check bookmarks
http://mypod-net.org/SuperNova.htm (REd october; blackshirts strategy)
shop e8.55
garden
16-20h = http://mypod-net.org/SuperNova.htm (REd october; blackshirts
strategy)
tv
lfc build up...?
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friday 1 october
I am HUNTing for those Supporters who make this a RED OCTOBER,
and the "fans" who act like c*nts..
http://eured.wordpress.com/
bed 02h (no W!)
woke 07 - up 09
FB
10.30 RUN
neighbours hooch..
11 FB etc..
12h tv
14 siesta
16h pizza last "house"..mad?
tv
18h :Lfc tv
? dels? trba? out...
e19 drinks - band @ treba?
...
who are the enemy?
- the "cia" excuse me but they are the C*nts Idiots & A**holes who
are basically evil & negative who want to stop any creativity and individual
initiative
- the people who are conned by "propaganda" of the "CIA" ...
- those who "mass-debate" whilst the world goes down the toilet - they
are the ones that stood by whilst the romans enslaved or anhilated 2 million
people 2000 years ago and then started "religion" or watched as gestapo
thugs took away whole families to totour or gas chambers, or todayt allow
the "New World Order" to dictate that you shoudl swallow the pollution
of the planet & the minds of y-our children by banality, bling and
commercial obsession,
"dont riock the boat" ChriS?..guess what?, the poltical/business Titalic
has sunk, (they are folling you still whilst playing music on the top deck)
you can help launch a LIFE(LIVER)boat though,,,
#
Hugo Staman
I agree. There is a lot of groth you can make. Just look @ the stadium!
I know its home sweet home and nostalgic but a club like LPool should have
a stadium of 80K+...! And with the people there i know every week it still
will be sold out!
A...nd yes, we'll kick there asses @ Grolsch veste! :-) like we did against inter! (to bad it was a 2-2... :-P )See more
ChriS SmiTH
we can make more by global sales of LiverBird products ..1 million
fan base and a potential 6 million buyres of our stuff worlwide!!!
- Anfield should stay as it is - with the financial meltdown coming
(will affect your company too?) a full ...anfield is the best HOME advantage
for our players and spend profit on the team..(big stadiums never have
the same feeling, and thats as much part of Liverpool as any aspect we
want to retain) ..good luck with Twente, cya sometime..
#
Hugo Staman
I know the feeling (at first) is gone. But look @ twente, the new stadium
is 10 times better than the old one! And yes, the new stadium should be
on the same spot, or verry nearby!
But last night didnt go that well for you guys. Whats wrong ...at the
moment? still addepting to the new coach?See more
#
ChriS SmiTH
yeh sure, you are great lads within that sphere, thats ok for Twente,
but we are LIVERPOOL , we are GLOBAL...dont apply "normal" to us, we MADE
football history...we are (still) the most succesful team in the history
of the most important ...league of the most important game(culture) in
the world..
the magic of anfield cant be transferred , too many spirits , too many ghosts..too many memories of overcoming the impossible..& souvenirs of the man who made it possible; Shanks..
the "coach" has got flat tires,...
your media only tells you a little bit of the truth and fills the dutch & the rest of the world with rumour & gossip..
the TRUTH is that the owners are frauds , and the chairman & MD
was placed on the board against the wishes & interests of supporters..
they forced Rafa out when they had no "authority" to do so, and 95%
wanted Kenny to replace him, instead they appointed a YES-man!
we wont solve the probalems On the field until we solve them OFF the field..this is RED October ...;)
10830
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-_eLxJM4_c
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Europa League Matches will be played on September 16 and 30, October 21, November 4, December 1/2 and 15/16.
Luka Gr?i?
26 220 Kovin
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2010 1 October ;
"Oh Campione
The one and ONLY
we're liverpooooolll
we are gonna take it over and
kick you out the door
the GLOBAL RED supporters gonna make
it like before"
"IF YOU CARE - buy a share" Support Global
REDS via E.L.S.U.N
(CS11001))
October RE(d)Volution ; RED October ; Black shirts
E.L.S.U.N "Statement of Intent" (CS10930)
Significantly on May 1st , 2000, I formed "Freedom & Union" within the articles of the council of europe (ECHR) , at that time my main aim was to enable EQUAL rights & free people unfairly disadvantaged throught europe, whether residents or refugees, I have now agreed that E.L.S.U.N ; EuRED Liverpool Supporters (overseas) UNION NETWORK may use those basic "aims & objectives; equal rights ; " to equalise the status of GLOBAL LIVERPOOL SUPPORTERS.
despite certain criticism, I am a current Member of both "SoS" & "SLfc" and in fact proposed a collective/dynamic organisation between them almost 2 years ago!
I have recommended voting in favour of the resolutions presented at their EGM 25th September 2010. However, I have experienced personally that the organisation is not yet set up to EQUALLY enable all rights deserved by each & every Global member; Having personally lodged multiple complaints @ Lfc. since 10 years for myself & for our Network of UNofficial Supporters & fan clubs it is clear however that E.L.S.U.N should co-operate with SoS-SL and other groups (Kop Fathful ; G & H OUT! ; "Help Save Lfc" whenever & wherever it makes sense.
SoS have already significant branches in the "Anglo-Saxon/sSandanavian" regions where perhaps the income is much higher than our members in central/southern europe/eastern europe/balkans; asia, india & africa etc; and the criteria & participation is much harder to meet. WE DO NOT want a new ("rich") owner/owners..
Therefore to clarify y-OUR focus:
* to ENSURE the "voice" Of "Global REds" and their
EQUAL RIGHTS during the process of SUPPORTER owned Lfc
(we agree in principle to the main aims of SoS/SL
* as the CREDIT UNION is unavailable to OUR Gllobal (non-UK) members ; to OFFER similar facilities to ALL Global REDS wherever they are situated.
AS WE ONLY want a SUPPORTERS owned club ...we will fight against any one who attempts to own OUR club, & ANY OTHER situation now and in the future!
* to fulfill the strategy ; with the slogan "if you CARE, OWN a SHARE...!"
* to provide a share to EACH of our members @ 500 EUROS per share
* to enable a form of "credit union" to enable disadvantaged members to save up, alone or in "saving clubs"
* MY Strategy..
TO fight the people who exploit YOU...and to place football clubs in the hands of the TRUE supporter, he or she that TRULY deserves it...
a) Our global supporters network will boycott
any bank or corporation's products who oppose TRUE Supporter ownership.
b) & will boycott certain matches & encourage
Global supporters/ex/&/players participation
c) will continue the "G & H not wanted anywhere
" campaign , changing the target to banks or relevant corporations who
back those who oppose us publicly; support non-violent protests, ENTHUSIASTIC
peaceful resistance, (alternative shirts & promote alternative products)
d) IF necessary ; cause the LIQUIDATION of the
trading / holding companies who oppose us (that begins with the various
G & H companies; Kop football/holdings)
e) IF necessary ; finally instruct barristers
to obtain an INJUNCTION (anton pillar mareva ) to FREEZE the activities
of the club pending a full investigation of previous /Current "owners"
& officers (alledged fraudulent) activity
and ; something "emotional" which is beyond pragmatic explanation...TO UPHOLD "Shanks' LIVERPOOL WAY" and restore the warmth & friendship within a dynamic global force of supporters.
ChriS SMITH
"if you CARE, OWN a SHARE...!
http://eured.wordpress.com
email; (via) ; ball_can_reds@mypod-net.org
Liverpool post
the media NOW start to mention the "protest" movement but avoid the
Issue of SUPPORTERS ownership, 50,000 already registered and our global
network can multiply that x 20 ...@ 500 per share we are the ONLY solution
for the club, and when the media, the "pundits" the yankers & the bankers
, and even some "fickle fans" finally realise that we can move away from
the stream of mis-informed BS!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/danroan/2010/09/liverpool_fans_take_fight_onli.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGgg9HHlz3c&feature=player_embedded
thanks Shanks, thanks Tosh, chokes me up just to watch it, loved him
to bit and we must never let the modern vultures & fickle fans ruin
what he gave us...
(CS10929) 29 years after his departure from this earth - some people
are waking up to the TRUE "Shanks SPIRIT"...demonstrations against the
"culture of capital" & co-operation between REds WORLDWIDE, Determination,
courage; commitment, dynamic & creative FIGHTING SPIRIT ...now perhaps
the "Shankly Banner" will not just be words...ACTION will speak louder,
and louder until this world turns to Justice for all.. thanks to Shanks
for all he gave ...must not be ruined by corporate vultures, bankers &
fickle fans... WE ONLY want a SUPPORTERS owned club ...and will fight against
any one who attempts to own OUR club & ANY OTHER situation now and
in the future , we ARE the "group of people" WE ARE THE CLUB, if you care,
buy a share...!
Impossible is not a fact.
It's an opinion.
Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare.
Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary.
Impossible is nothing.
CS>10928
"A group of PEOPLE"...(if you care - OWN a share"
"A group of PEOPLE"...
"Nice" mr. H has said..
"A group of PEOPLE"...is all we are
people coloured LIVERPOOL RED!
"A group of PEOPLE"...
who pay Y-OUR way
often treated like sh*te
...when we come TOGETHER
watch how we can FIGHT
"A group of PEOPLE"...
who FEEL the lyrics "Y.N.W.A.."
& SUPPORT "through wind & rain"
WE like to sing & shout
this CLUB WE WILL GAIN
"A group of PEOPLE"
who hate the liars & "suits"
expecting YOU to be FAIR
.. coming together around the WORLD
LIVERPOOL fc WE WILL SHARE
..if you CARE - oWN a SHARE
10927
EGM
http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/September-2010-EGM-_-Video.html
REDmen in BLACK!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YAZGxGXPDE
WE DO NOT want a new ("rich) owner/owners..
WE ONLY want a SUPPORTERS owned club ...and will fight against any one & ANY OTHER situation now and in the future who attempts to own OUR club, if you care, buy a share...!
Liverpool, post
...its no good this guy (who is sitting in Rafa's seat) calling himself
"manager" coming in and admiring Shanks "WE are Liverpool" statement..then
trying to dumb us down like the suits Purslow & Broughton & the
other Lfc office "spinners" ...if ANY club in the world should be owned
by its supporters, it is LIVERPOOL fc , we are the club, IF YOU CARE, buy
a SHARE!
http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/September-2010-EGM-_-Video.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YAZGxGXPDE
p.s. if any "fan" thinks criticising hodgson is disloyal (and I supported
Shanks "holy trinity of players-supporters-manager since more than 40 years,
totally) to me. forcing Rafa out, then ignoring 95% of supporters who wanted
Kenny , and him being appointed by liars & cheats DISQUALIFIES roy
as "OUR manager"..!
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Dear Member
Following the Spirit of Shankly EGM held on Saturday (http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/September-2010-EGM-_-Video.html ), the Union's members have voted overwhelmingly in favour of all six resolutions put before them (http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/EGM-Voting-Results.html ).
The main proposal detailed the strategy and action that the Union was asking its members to approve - this can be seen in the EGM agenda (http://www.spiritofshankly.com/documents/1009_egm_meeting_agenda.pdf ).
In light of the positive vote of the Union's members, we will be developing the next steps in our "Not Welcome" campaign to see the end of Hicks and Gillett by demanding “No to Refinance – Finance The Fans”.
This campaign puts the only people who can be trusted, the supporters, at the centre of a cure to our club’s problems. No longer should we have Tom Hicks and George Gillett, or their ilk running a football club into the ground. Instead we will have proper custodians – us, the supporters.
This Sunday we will send out a message, loud, passionate, and clear that we, the supporters, want Tom Hicks and George Gillett out. We want RBS to call in their loans and say no to refinance. Supporters are the only credible solution, the only constant in this ever changing process. We want RBS to finance us, the supporters.
We want the Board of the Club to get behind the supporters' proposal or to publicly explain why, with access to millions of supporters around the world willing to be involved, they will not.
We will tell the Board, RBS and the watching world what we want. Before the Blackpool game, we will be marching from the Liverpool FC Supporters' Club on Lower Breck Road to Anfield. We will gather at 1:30pm - so we can show them our strength and the support for our campaign.
After the game we will hold another sit in protest in the ground and we would ask everyone to stay and make their voices heard so again, we can repeat the message - this is our football club. Any repayment of debt or profits to be made by potential purchasers will come from the revenue streams we supporters provide. So who better to save the football club than they very people who have made this club what it is and who will be the provider of the finance to solve its debt problems?
People will laugh, mock and tell you it can’t be done. Well, the owners got away with it before because we let them. Not anymore. The Board, RBS and the other money people will try and get away with it again but they will only succeed if we let them - this time though, we won't.
Ask those that scoff what they offer as an alternative – refinancing the Americans is a very large step towards the abyss, in addition there is no queue of potential purchasers.
Supporters are the solution. We've always been the solution. On Sunday, let’s show them that.
No To Refinance - Finance The Fans
We ask all those attending to bring along their flags and banners. We also require volunteers to assist with stewarding. If you are able to help or have any other ideas, please email directaction@spiritofshankly.com
Spirit Of Shankly
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36-56
..The "haties" (80's) were seeing extremes already in my personal life reflected in the world at large, the demise of the former soviet union seemed at the same time to be leading to a negative wave, (almost like a "tide of evil" that vitually drowns us today), which maybe was the beginning of the much - feared "millenium bug" ...individual events mirrored the Heysel , Hillsborough and other tragic disasters ; in '85 I had an affair with my wife's cousin, a young actresss & Linda ; my close brother's sister-in-law. this latter relationship would cost me something like a million pounds & 8 compnies of my business "empire" but worst it would lose most of my family through physical, verbal & legal conflicts -not least a high-court drama, and although eventually succesfully fighting (side by side) against the "nuclear weapon" of the english high court (an "anton pillar mareva injunction" served in october 86 that would virtually bankrupt Jacqui and I), caused by my brother & Lin, and sponsored by my ex-business partners Mike, George Piddell & co.) my brother and I would never repair our friendship, Jacqui & I would seperate, my father would die after a mild accident, in hospital, & my sister would be lost to cancer, all within a few years!...
A lesson for all , especially would-be entrepreneurs, there are times when the mystery of this universe seems to favour you with unexpected co-incidences..dont lay back & expect all the work to be done..THESE are the times to put the effort & energy in, to back up your "good luck"...the "devil" (d'evil = "of evil" means the opposite of live = evil spelt backwards..) is waiting to kick you between the legs if you dont use your fortunate chances wisely...so it was for our "C.E.S consortium" in '89 having had the luck of obtaining a business worth over a million for only 70 thousand, the market went dry..stopped! The Hillsborough disaster was a shock which almost made me quit football alltogether - simultaneously a financial crisis meant that 90% of the contracts we expected to enjoy were on "hold" "and the tenders that we expected to win, became targets for any cheap cut-throat competitor to attack, our whole set up was budgeted for full occupation, as the 3 client companies I had were moved into the group HQ and with expectations of success , costs were incurred, bit Like Lfc right now,..a mess & in-fighting followed...so it was..into the "NEINties" (90's)
I resigned from the situation, with a less than happy bunch of clients turning from friends to enemies, lost along the way, However, some rare experiences with projects involving a Uk-German JV , a week in Seoul (being educated in "old cultures) by a Korean security camera manufacturer & a "special" experience hauling a group of japanese directors of a Toyota company, teaching THEM a lesson in manners, (each one a story all of its own) was beginning to shape the "enterprise to complete all enterprises" as I embarked on a multi-billion dollar project that would save me from boredom for the rest of my life, by forming a consortium, developing Unique multi-media communications to inter-connect over 300 partner-companies, providing nore than 500 products & services throughout 45 countries via the UKRANIAN space agency!...
This 7 year project, taking up virtually all my time, resources & assets, came to an end 3 years after my 2nd marriage to Jacqui (also now deceased) the earlier death of my father & sister, our marriage & my family split and the extreme wear & tear of 7 years, non-stop 24/7 either tarveling to or from or in a meeting (or thinking about one) ...had an affect...as someone said "Gods way of telling you to slow down"..in the EASTER weekend before we were due to test equipment in the final days of the project, easter sunday night of 1995, in de Panne (french speakers will understand the irony) I feel tired, have an early night, wake up in a fever, fall into coma and a week later I find myself connected, at all points, to a life-support in the intensive care station of the Flemish hospital of Veurne.
It was the first time I had been really ill as an adult, having only missed about 5 working days in the previous 20 years. I was shocked by the belgian doctors news, as I really didnt know what day it was. My project was dead, I had nearly died (the doctor told me I must rest, it would probably take years to get my strength back, but I "had a will to live") I lay on the bed "quiet" for the first time in my adult life...re-born?..I changed my life 1000% and decided I never again would care about making profits. I had dreams & visions of what I could do. Since those days I have done my utmost to respect life, and support other people, a few people noticed. The business partners hated me though, and ironic that also people from the "alternative world" hated me too.
Funny how when I was a "Business machine" relatively rich, young wizz-kid travelling around the world, how much I was "loved" (for what though? for what I could do for others, for the love of money?) ..I was living in Freiburg (chosen because in 93 I had met Franziska from there, and it was "central" for european travel) and having checked out of the hospital after 2 weeks instead of the 2 months they recommended, went back to my "penthouse office/apartment" but it was difficult to concentrate for more than an hour without resting. That made it difficult for (ex) business partners to believe I had "resigned"..I had a lot of "black-mail" sent to me and insults for daring to LEAVE such a massive business project, many aspects of which are just now coming into use, worldwide.(but not in my name!)
I met Leons mother at a lake-side party and eventually created him, after "chasing" her to Berlin, where we lived for several months before deciding that Freiburg was healthier place for a child. We found a house in a small village, but even decorating it & furnishing it together in her "emancipated" shared structure didnt help us stay together,it didnt help that the property owner didnt like me. Although I moved out, I still supported AH and the most wonderful event of my life was taking my son from her at our home - birth aided by a midwife, with candles & music. (11, august, 1996) However, this went sour when the "disappointed" business people spread rumours, resulting in a raid of my office-flat - the local police ridiculously "fishing" for something to charge me with.
Despite complaints at the local, national & international courts & lodgsing the beginning of a 12 year appeal process at the european court of Human rights the germans repeated violations of my rights and Leons mother (Annika H) was unsympathetic ("they must have a reason - the authorities dont make such mistakes" was her attitude) they repeated the "raids" 3 times. AH disappeared one day when I was due to pick 3-year old Leon up during a voluntary shared custody.My protests about the virtual abduction resulted in ME being investigated. I had never, in the whole of my travels & time around different parts of the worls had any serious conflcits with police until "germoney". I had become very active in the alternative world campaigning for equal rights, working on peace campaigns & ecological protests, local & global.
I gave soem english presentations to mature students at the Freiburg english school, for fun rather than profit, as I helped the schools managing director & his wife with their "social programme" where I met Margit. During the time I had Leon, Margit became attracted to me, (not so) discretely making it clear to the other ladies in my life that she wanted an "exclusive" relationship/ I was having a good time with Simone (cinema) , Margit (dancing) & Sabine..as my focus & physical strength had returned, even if the problems with AH and Leon concerned me. Margit experienced my care for him and told me "Chris, you are a good man, a good father" and made it clear she wanted a relationship with me. Dispite the german state oppression, we lived together, and Margit gave birth to Noela on 28th November, 2001. (my Lfc support had been restricted mostly to watching at the local irish pub with other "ex-pats" but I did get to the UEFA final, Dortmund, even if it took me 2 weeks to recover)
Margit's (bavarian) racist parents hated me. They put pressure on her to split with me, even during the pregancy, but I had always said that I would be there, for her & baby Noela, the arrival of a little girl helping me, in some ways, get over my dear mothers death. However, Margit then coldly decided I should leave them one month AFTER I had supported her through the birth. However I had found AH & re-established contact with ny son Leon,. even though my elder son ; Adam had died (indirectly due to being abused), I still hungered for family life. I found an old farmhouse I could afford to buy in the Alsace region (France) close to the Rhine border, only 30 kms from Freiburg, and demanded that Margit let me have our agreed shared custody of Noela. This worked well, I built my time around looking after her, (AH made it difficult for Leon to be with me) I loved the time we spent and seeing her grow, until..
I discovered by accident that Margit was planning to betray our agreement, and hooked up with a very dubious guy, who I felt might abuse Noela. I kept Noela with me for a few days, asking Margit to explain, she lied, and literally arranged an AMBUSH & abduction of Noela, during an attack on me by heavies who may have been hired by her parents. Margit then disappeared for a while. Pressure and the risk of me reporting her & her accomplises brought her back into contact, and in early 2005 I once again had contact with Noela. Margit again betrayed her promises and the german state interferred again & I lost regular contact with Noela. As a Liverpool Supporter the European Champions league final in istanbul was a major event of that time, and THAT is also "another story"...The arrival of Rafa Benitez the previous season, brought renewed pride & hope (I went to Graz to see his very first game in charge of our team)
The following season, the success of my team helped distract me from
the loss of family and my estranged beloved Leon & Noela. Apart from
a couple of brief glimpses, Annika blocked all attempts to see my son,
and Margit, having lost in court against me, moved to another country (I
tacked them to Dublin
& took my dutch girlfriend JD as witness in 2008 to try to give
Noela birthday presents, but Margit kicked the bag out of my hands into
the street, in front of my daughter, and complained to the "garda") during
this decade I have seen most european games and been to Anfield about once
a month. I moved to Zwolle in 2006, and since then lived part-time with
JD in Zwolle (NL) ..until may 2009 and nearby the flemish belgian border
regions near the villages of Merksplas & ZonderEigen (about 50 kms
from Antwerpen) where I organised charity & football weekends on a
not-for-profit basis, coached kids & supported some talented youth
muscians etc.
early in 2010 I left the remote cabin, that had been SNOWBOUND for much of the winter, and am now in the "Balkans"..for the first time (its the only region of Europe that I didnt know, until now)
:)))))))))
"Reflections" ("In my life...") 16->36...
I need to "pause" in this frantic (tit-M-anic) period of supporting
Liverpool FC ..and I have been talking with local Ana (online) & Veli
(in "delboys", Pg) these last few days..
whilst many sceptics & narrow minded "fans" have doubted my qualifications
to co-ordinate
the "RED October" strategy, I was inclined to recall the past, and
its true that I DO NOT have any "paper qualifications" (nor did my Mentor
"Shanks"...)
at 16 years old, I cut short the extended "comprehensive" schooling in favour of "work exerience" where as an office boy I could learn all the basics...post dept, messanger work, city round (taking wine samples etc to the customers, going to the docks paying dutues @ customs etc etc ) ...by my own choice I studied "Strategy" after hours (my day was already 12 hrs + as it took often 90-120 minutes each way to "commute" ..
I worked up through all the boring jobs quickly, and that including
writing out orders by hand (no computers or word processors at that time)
until at 18 I became assistant to the Transport manager,
A freak situation when the "Boss" caught me reading a book instead
of working and discovered that I could manage the "logisitics" more efficiently
& in half the time (and a fraction of the wages) of the manager resulted
in a "shock" appointment at the tender age of 19, I was "hungry" for responsiibility
and within months I had a 4 bedroom house, a wife and an adopted daughter..
Well, after my (now deceased) son being born the next year, my first wife decided to run away with both kids for a YOUNGER man..claiming I was a "workaholic" , which had grounds, as by 21 I had been appointed as a middle manager in an International import/export shipping agents within the more modern methods of bulk & container movements of wines & spirits..and I formed a "Union" (staff association) and was made commercial manager - forming tariffs, organising shipment schedules travelling & negociating with the various agencies around Europe!
I learnt a lot from the 2 bosses of that company and having channelled the energy from losing my kids (although I paid for them via a court order) into my career I responded arrogantly when one of them took away certain "perks" after I wrote off a brand new company car on my first summer holiday with my new girlfriend...The suppliers I met were more sympathetic and their boss lent me his car to continue our holiday, so I walked out. I had a great time at that company, and especially with a young group of middle managers like myself, at a time when "the REDS" (Lfc) also were booming! (in the 70's, the finals; 71, 74, 77 & 78 stand out in my memory)
I destroyed a neighbours car on the way to another job interview, I
got the job, but left it after a row with the general manager (who insisted
I call him "mr" <smile> )..then the largest logistics company in europe,
half owned by the french state appointed me, to develop new services, especially
from the french wine regions. My success led to me being "head hunted"
by the competitior I was taking most of the busines from. (a London company
owned by 3 brash cockney millionaires) They bought me
at double the salary & a new powerful "Ghia" company car, but I
was soon bored, as they only wanted to "stop" me taking profits from them.
I therefore re-directed my talents into organising the office...taking out the General Manager (to lunch) who was only a few years older, educating HIM in "delegation" and soon we were both wined & dined at long lunch & dinner meetings whilst the office ran "like a machine"....then again, I was head hunted, this time a french competitor of my former employers wanted my services to lead a new company , form an agency and develop services for them in UK..
but "Mike" wanted me to stay, or rather, he proposed that WE start our own company , serving the global wine & spirit trade. We talke to 3 customers, in our own time, "off the record" but one betrayed our trust and we were both sacked! without notice, (despite having decided NOT to "compete") and although I had a fantastic offer "on the table" ( a mangers salary, sports car, 5 year contract with bonuses & a house in the country, which my second wife could choose!) ...I felt anger at our treatment by the "3 cockneys" ..especially as Mike was their first ever employee, since 13 years and had a new baby son , wife & mortgage to support!
Therefore, I phoned around , and found a cheap dingy office in a container depot, where we shared a Telex machine (the only technology we used) one desk and one phone. BUT we were motivated - I was DETERMINED to show all those previous employers that I could take the best of their methods add my own ideas and "make it" ...I formed a list of the biggest customers (including the likes of Marks & Spencer, Tesco, Segram etc) and, unlike our competitors, who waited for orders, I went after them, and got them, within our first years trading we had a turnover in excess of 1 million GBP!
Despite a better year folowing, adding profits from other services; insurance and financing ouselves which cleared a full GBP million in profits (average 55% net profit) Mikes WIFE pushed himto expect more involvement in the commercial aspects (negociation) which was my strength, she though "entertaining" was all it was, and after first summer holiday for aroound 10 years with my new wife (jacqueline) we had a terrible arguement on my return to the office, and the special "trust" was broken. I left , walkign away with little more than "pocket money"...and "partied" ..
the 6 months I took my wife and as many friends as I could muster to the "chique" restaurants, & went to night clubs frequented by then celebs like Jagger & sports stars..until I looked at my bank balance and thought " I have to do something again"/...As I knew a lot of business owners & leaders through the "International Round Table" events & weekend meetings, it wasnt a surprise when JOHN P. a clever electronics designer (awful at organising) asked me to help him, Within a year his company went from losing to a 30% profit, thanks to re-organising , employing his wife and a (tough) secretary to keep him away from the "admin".
Word spread, local & global, and the next years were spent on small to medium company mergers & aquisitions, joint venture, "networking" (before anyone used that word) and organising corporate investments, mostly in start-up, unusual or "risk" management situations. Until I was approached by the wife of a new Telecommunications-related business owner (who had profited from the then "UK liberalization" ) who wanted me to handle the "business aspects" of her divorce, the "news" she had was a "miracle co-incidence" as THREE of my clients provided EXCLUSIVE (electronic) develeopment, installation & maintenance services to her soon-to-be EX-husband's company..
Her husband & another Director of their group, sold one division for a Million GBP and disappeared to the Bahamas (or somewhere similar) leaving a MESS, but still a "mess" that the ADMINISTRATOR decided was worth (with large contracts with big banks & local government, for communications & security systems etc) worth over 1 million GBP. However, he didnt realise that my 3 clients, the "bosses wife" gave me 4 "aces" in the "negociation" game. after some weeks of excluding all other "buyers" and almost a day of meeting with the administrator and his 6 or 7 lawyer & accounting colleagues (at one time I called their bluff by walking away) "WE" obtained the busines for 70K GBP!
.....to be continued..
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If you search for tenderness
it isn't hard to find.
You can have the love you need to live.
But if you look for truthfulness
You might just as well be blind.
It always seems to be so hard to give.
Honesty is such a lonely word.
Everyone is so untrue.
Honesty is hardly ever heard.
And mostly what I need from you.
I can always find someone
to say they sympathize.
If I wear my heart out on my sleeve.
But I don't want some pretty face
to tell me pretty lies.
All I want is someone to believe.
Honesty is such a lonely word.
Everyone is so untrue.
Honesty is hardly ever heard.
And mostly what I need from you.
I can find a lover.
I can find a friend.
I can have security until the bitter end.
Anyone can comfort me
with promises again.
I know, I know.
When I'm deep inside of me
don't be too concerned.
I won't ask for nothin' while I'm gone.
But when I want sincerity
tell me where else can I turn.
Because you're the one I depend upon.
Honesty is such a lonely word.
Everyone is so untrue.
Honesty is hardly ever heard.
And mostly what I need from you.
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Hiya A S-J,
just a quick reply , to thank you for your email././...and...to inform
you that I shall send a short message to Robin, although , as I dont drink
& drive and without there being public transport late at night returning
to Pg, I hope maybe they (we?) organise something similar in Pg...and I
will propose a meeting a.s.ap. with Dijana..
as for Ms Skinner, I didnt want to inject any more "criticism" into
our meeting yesterday, but from past experience, I have found large organisations
like hers are very reluctant to co-operate with "unknowns" like myself,
and become quite "political" or condescending, I am not suggesting
Noala is this way, but I tend to work best when I have a free hand, and
as I am not looking for a job, I dont feel inclined to apply to do good
work
..I hope you understand (btw-my "cv" is at "Linkedin" if YOU are interested..)
I have already sent a couple of exploratory messages concerning the
ideas for next year, and suggest we could have a short meeting (coffee
or lunch) so i can "bounce" my ideas off of you and presnt you (in)formally
with the t-shirt! when you have time....
take care & have a good weekend..
CS
From: A S-J
To: ball_can_red
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:45:00 +0100
Subject: RE: BcR CS>11028 Ana S-J
Dear Chris,
It was nice seeing you and having that chat yesterday, indeed. Thank you for all the useful information and contacts you've already sent.
If English fans will be willing to have some charity work here next
year at the time of the match, that would be lovely. I could help
on behalf of the Embassy, and they would also have you as an additional
(or main) organiser of such events here.
Many thansk for the kind gift, I'd love to have such shirt, so thank
you very much.
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“Football Is an honest game. It's true to life . It's a game about sharing. Football is a team game. So is life. ” you don't live for something, then you die for nothing.
If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem.
Dream as if you have forever, Live as if you only have today.
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electric
11001
1 oct = electric @ S47 ; 99860 (? absent 2 long weekends? + dry out
flood)
(new bill received from slobo e11.32 (31 aug ; 99605->99718)
1 sept electric @ S47 ; 99733
(new bill received from slobo; e11.98 (not 35.92!)
1 aug electric @ S47 ; 99629
(checked again ; 99718 on 27th aug 10.30)