New_HOPE

a new hope, with "the return of the king" ....

like a scene out of "Star Wars" .. or "Lord of the Rings" trilogy , the new calendar year of '11 begins with removal of someone negative and the "Return of the KING" ... a man of dignity ...a TRUE "legend" man of courage , who we ALL respect, there are few people left on this planet I respect & admire ..recently one of us (Rafa) was cheated out of his job @ Lfc ........but in the turmoil and destructive mess that followed we may have created a new basis for a GOLDEN future..

he's (almost) done it all....

I posted this on our KOP UNlimited group "wall"

"There IS a positive energy & a different improved mentality at OUR club already..lets just get behind Kenny and all the players and show some of the fight & dignity Kenny has , he has come in when we needed him , whoeverKenny picks, he dont need any RED challenging his choices..if you want to chat about "transfers" leave it until the summer, we should get behind the players we have, I watched our youth team on saturday, we have great young players coming through, the FUTUREDS! ..

SO supporters should give 100% too! Kenny IS & will be 100% LFC, so PLEASE no more moaning, lets take the p*ss out of opponents, use our legendary "wit" because most of our enemies are idiots! there is enough insults to hand out to mancs, or bluesh*te and cockney rent-boys without picking on our own!!

...come on REDS ,

and Red mates PLEASE calm down any "knee - jerk" reactions from the lesser informed fans around us,, we need to get back on course for greatness and EVERY RED must stand up and be a TRUE SUPPORTER, this is the core of the "LIVERPOOL way" ,

( we had clear reasons to oppose hicks, purslow & hodgson, they were not caring about Liverpool , they were imposters!) but we know we have a NEW chance, dont spoil it!

in future criticise anything in private and SUPPORT us in public, because our enemies are scared of a new dynasty with Kenny at the front

..and will plant any type of discontent in the mind of younger or weaker fans , lets turn on them; the media, the mancs, the rent-boys, the hookers @ madrid, the posers @ Barca, & the boring milanese etc..lets go back to "holy trinity" of Shanks, Bob & with Kenny ; renew core values stand together as one!

a BIG global RED family and one big RED Army.. ;)

Now we have a TRUE "care Taker" to take CARE of our club...! whatever results someone who loves the club is back in charge; DALGLISH!

together we are stronger! we shall never walk alone..
.. with HOPE y-our hearts..walk on and NO surrender!

p.s.

no apologies for reminding us all that it was RAFA that brought Kenny back to LFC! "

The "Redmen TV" had enough reaction To Kenny's arrival, after the removal of Hodgson from the club..

to go from this....

to this..............

Kenny Dalglish got a middle of the night call to replace hodgson, he was in Dubai, and within 24 hrs he was back in the "dugout" at manchesters old toilet against the old foe Ferguson , ManUre and Howard Webb.. (in spite of the "blue suits" who forced out Rafa and recommnded Comolli)

I watched the game @ the local "west side bar" , the "typical" penalty awarded against us in the first minute , the sending off of our captain (Steve Gerrard) against our most bitter rivals could NOt and does not and WILL not dampen my enthusiam and optimism for the future of our club. "Enthusiam" "Energy" and "instinct" have been aspects that I believe enable me to challenge my natural organisational skills & "strategic" abilities to act extra-ordinmarily, these aspects are becoming rare in a society teaching everyone to live "inside the box" Its easy to see Kenny has the rare attributes that made him a winner in a time of originals , when today we seem to produce , re-hashed people, "copies & copiers" and "bling" to cover up the lack of ability or originality. Today I would probably get a job, being an "odd man out" who rebelled, because today , as long as you know how to study and pass exams those pieces of paper will allow you to join the mundane masses..that ruin our planet! ..LIVERPOOL is still an exception where some element of social justice isfought for, Kenny of all people feels the injustice of media lies and government/police cover ups since Hillsborough more than 21 years ago! ...

Valiant effort the 10 against 12 ..webb the mancs man of the match (again) , not a pen, and Stevies first foul was a yellow not red! with all hodgson-crisis etc I had forgotten that Webb was Referee of the game, its always a case of playing agaent the mancs + him ..like in boxing "you have to knock him out to get a draw" in some places...the mancs didnt worry us at all even after the penalty, they had no chances until SG was red-carded, if thats a red card then of course several of the mancs should have got booked ..as it was Stevies first foul of the gaem a "normal" ref would have booked Gerrard at most but Webb is a manc (as we know) and its rare to get a decent decision in out favour at OT..having said that I thought the lads did well and proved that we do NOT have a group of bad players as hodgson and the media would like to portray..

i am confident that we can have a decent finish to the league and europa league ..and we can beat Man U along the way in march @ anfield

I posted this during last week to wake people up to the lies..on my Kop Unlimited group..

I know it, it stands up with what we knew about the back-stabbing by Purslow whilst Rafa was still here, it seems he would make alliances with anyone, Hicks, Broughton Carra & stevie and media & NESV in order to promote himself..biggest mistake Henry made was to continue the emplyment of Purslow and endorsement of hodgson..more sh*te will come out..if you go on my KOP unlimuted discussion board you will see my comments going back to early part of last year..warnings about getting rid of Rafa, warnings about [past & new yankers..frustration that players like Stevie didnt back Rafa and some fans who allowed xenophobic / biased media to turn them against him..

I pushed 2 years ago for it..and IMO SoS/sharelfc made a big mistake not making an earlier better & more forceful campaign for supporters ownership..not only as a union but as a good investment Lfc is worth a billion worldwide if managed properly , NESV got it for 200 million and loaded 83 million against anfield/melwood! , so what do you think? On Purslow: had someone who knew nothing about football running the club, appointing a manager, and making things difficult for Rafa in his last season; the new owners should put a picture of Cecil up in the boardroom as a reminder of how not to run a football club.
("Frank" on Lfctv, at last some truths being told on our channel!)

We can still qualify for the CL but I have no worry about players, its enough to sort out the ones we have that haven't been used properly..new players just give Kenny more to blend in, new players are best bought when a team is "settled" kenny has to form the team first ..and january is bad time to get the best players anyway especially in our confused state, have faith in Kenny!!! please! REDS support Kenny & the team (whoever plays) 100% until the end of the season because WE are the CLUb, we are LIVERPOOL! ChriS SmiTH p.s. dont take much notice of comolli (he actually stated in an interview that he "admires hodgson") enough said?

Kenny's return brings back great memories..never forget that final goal at wembley for the 2nd european champions cup ..i was standing about 10 metres away on the bottom terrace..I swaer I could have reached out and grabbed Kenny ..great man ..and expect every Red to get behind him and the team WHOever he chooses...time to unify, together we are stronger than any club on this planet! .beware the dark side..of the media..

Core supporters knew of the purslow propaganda sucked up by the media that forced out Rafa, and we knew that hodgson didnt have the credentials for LFC, and your colleagues agenda to keep an english mana...ger @ Lfc despite him making more mistakes than the Benitez style that they so readily "crucified" we werent perplexed "LMAmanager of the year" is for "triers" not winners..hodgson hadn't won anything at top level so yeah i suppose he was tipped for england, but NOT good enough for LIVERPOOL football club..Seems that henry woke up to the losses in ticket sales which are costing the club as much as compensating hodgson.

Now we have a TRUE "care Taker" to take CARE of our club...! whatever results someone who loves the club is back in charge; DALGLISH! really dont want to even think about hodgson any more, i was feeling physically sick this last week at the potential horror of henry doing nothing, better late than never, whatever the results we know that we have again got someone who loves the club and will do his best for us the supporters too ..I hope and believe if anyone can kenny can unify the supporters and we global Reds will get behind him and the team, the supporters @ bburn and all true Reds deserve a manager that gets us, and we love Kenny

i feel for hodgson...& the media (& all the pro-hodgson, anti-rafa "pundits) from the heart of my bottom!

(note for the new "echo" reporter .....) "so, beware the dark side Luke, Traynor! .....if thats your real name...;)

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Xmas/new Year in the Balkans has gone until today (10th jan '11) renewing the traditional (orthadox) with the modern
bUT, i didnt get any presents (apart from a tree) ...some Reds I hoped to see, didnt visit me either..! <smile>

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"Fool me once...."

'Football is a simple game based on the giving & taking of passes, controlling the ball and making yourself available.' (Shanks)

...ON orthadox xmas night in the Balkans , I wanted to join the festivities , but got an acid stomoach, could be last nights rakija , or more like sick in the stomach of "hodg(f*kin)son disease" or a touch of "fenway-itis"

------------there is basic truth , hodgson was emplyed as part of purslows politics andtHicks didnt want Rafa there because Rafa is one of us, Rafa opposed the attempt of Hicks to simply run Lfc for their profit and Purslow wanted to be "king of anfield" ..then the bigger error the bank employed a chelski fan to be "chairman" ..the probelms that caused was the replacement of Rafa (who was doing an impossible job since 2007 because of the "games" played by thicks & purslow in the boardroom..

to make matters worse when the media fooled some fans in their anti-rafa campaign, broughton said "the media want rafa gone" ..the xenophobic english media had gone against Rafa as soon as they knew that Hicks tried to get klinsmann (that was just in the season after we had reached the CL final; for the 2nd time in 3 years! ..

worse, Rafa brought in Kenny, and when they forced out Rafa (who was under contract for another 4 years) Kernny knew that he was better than any of the "canbdidates" (mostly buddies of broughton ...from london) but purslow also knew Kenny would oppose his "power play" and thus defied Kenny and instead backed broughton to bring hodgson in

IMPORTANT NEITHER broughton nor {Purslow were employed to make "football decisions" they were there to handle the transfereal to new owners, broughton didnt work hard on finding anyone better than NESV, the broker who introduced Hicks also introduced Henry..Broughton & Purslow also ignored supporters claim for a fans ownership club..because again purslow didnt want us questioning his decisions..purslow then went to Carra & Stevie to get them to back him on removing Rafa...so ...once Rafa was gone PURSLOW dictated transfers ..out went young players, and Insua, Aquilani and Masch etc followed (sure there were marital reasons masch wanted to go, but i am sure Masch would have stayed if rafa had stayed)

Purslow then thought that appointing Cole (a chelski reject who was buddies with Carra & Stevie from england camp) would a ) win over fans & distract them from the BS in the boardroom and b) make purslow a friend of Stevie & Carra,, so "it worked" fans were fooled ..and ..so were Stevie & carra into thinking purslow was on their side, but purslows only aim was power and removal of anyone who would challenge him, Purslow also like the idea of NESV, because of his business connection (purslow is in busines consultancy & hedge fund managment ..basicaally guys that pay nothing for something by using their BS!)

Purslow then sanctioned Konchesky & Meiereles and poulsen , and hodgson went along with it all as purslow had negociated with hodgson a long time before Rafa was removed!!! so NESV and Henry-Werner were ideal "replacements" for Hicks & co because they ALSO knew nothing about footy and therefore could be easily conned!

notes;
Purslow is STILL a director of Lfc
Henry - Werner are clueless about footy (baseball is a USA only market, not a global entity like LFC)
- Steve & Carra now cant seem to go back on their wrong decision to agree to hodgson
- english media(mostly made up of mancs & cockneys ) backed hodgson because a) they hated Rafa who wouldnt agree to their "ways" and stood up against Fergie b) wanted hodgson as an english manager with a rop club
(hence the "its all Rafas fault" campaign)

Torres was conned into thinking that Rafa played him when injured as Hicks wanted Torres playing at the end of last season to improve the cluib "sale value"

NOW doe you understand that if you love this club WE must come together and fight for what is right, get the cancer out and build a new dynasty" we are unique (see 7000 Reds @ blackburn supporting the TEAM when hodgson tactics are not worthy of any support)

LFC BaLKAN REDS webpage discuss on RH..Now Replaced by positive Kenny & new HOPE

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Our enemies fail to realise how we are pushed to become ONE BIG REDS family when continual injustice off the field is matched by bias against us in the media and ON the field...(in the last 4 games played at old toilet we have had 3 debated penalties awarded against us and red cards against us every other year) ..says it all!

WE are a million + GLOBAL REDs ARMY...

I noted on my previous "Blog" that I commented on the "REDmen TV" about hodgson, and I told them "Paul, I didnt because although hodgson is out of his depth so are a lot of people!..especially in the "office" and that cant be explained in a 30 second "soundbite".."

NESV; a) retained purslow, b) endorsed hodgson,c) appointed comolli over Kenny d)83 million bank credit secured against anfield/melwood e) no offer of shares to supporters

Henry & Werner know nothing about footy & never managed a global entity like Lfc = if these are our saviours???? then heaven help us (its not blind leading blind, its something nasty leading the blind!)

..supporters have to take initiative, we know our club better than the "office" , directors and "owners" = global Reds boycott!
then we should be involved with rebuilding a REDS dynasty because WE know better = WE are the club!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NMuLDAl-CA&feature=player_embedded

"We were always confident but were were never over-confident. Being cocky is a form of ignorance."(Shanks)

..these are the times when our faith and support is tested, this is when we find out who we are and our mentality..its easy to be a fan (like the barca, madrid, mancs chelski or arsenal fans) when they win, but tough times bring out the quality of a man or woman.,.we are REDS , where you are born, when you stand up for the REDs you have the right to say "WE are LIVERPOOL"

various comments from a MOMENTOUS week...

on NESN...(USA)

wodgson = Titanic football expert!

..supporters have to take initiative, we know our club better than the "office" , directors and "owners" = global Reds boycott! we need Kenny Dalglish to replace hodgson as care-taker to bring Unity then Rafa is the best of those available to finish the contract Hicks, purslow & broughton cheated him of..

ChriS
EuRED Liverpool Supporters (OverSeas) Union Network
Europe

hodgson-has-few-arguments-for-keeping-his-job-left-after-awful-3-1-loss-at-blackburn

I wont list the 100s of reasons why you are wrong to prop up hodgson, thats been over done already but lets make it clear YOu, the media & your tv pundits are as much to blame as anyone, you took a dislike to OUR manager Rafa Benitez and sought any chance to undermine HIM, and now you defend a man who isnt worth a fraction of RB..

( also I warned about accepting the NESV too easily just because the previous disasterous duo did so much damage!)...enough is enough, no improvement after Hicks, a demoralising "coach", Purslow STILL a director = Lfc fans conned by "smooth talking & listening" Henry & Wernerwho only want to make money out of us....wake up Reds, boycott games & shops, then THEY will act when MONEY is lost, not just "listen" ,,,

Liverpool Press?...aren't you ashamed to attempt to con the 97% of supporters who pay to watch Lfc and dont want to see hodgsons face again!! ..."Joe Cole stole the goal" ...should have been the headline and HIS manager (from the kings road mafia) Stole Benitez's job, too
we cant afford to lose players like Agger, Torres, Reina etc if he dont get rid of hodgson now we WILL lose them and , Mr. John Henry you are losing our global reds supporters, ...you must accept the consequences , like hodgson for being out of your depth too!

ntil hodgson goes its like having a sports car and letting a blind man drive it...hes ruining Torres...

... the new yankers are either clueless, naive or ......as bad as .. G & H? ..I do NOT feel any better than in the the summer... do you?? ..wheres the actual evidence of improvement, or even a "feel good" factor?..9 points lost and a chance for us to own Lfc would be an improvement but swapping one group of vultures for another "nicer" lot is not doing our club any good..

who will advise them?? Purslow, explayers?.. Comolli.??(joke)..Do you, John Henry,(FSG!) realise that you are the equivalent "sports business" of roy hodgson...? your marketing experience confirned to an american market thats easily satisfied with "fast food lifestyle" ...and like our "coach" with "35 years of managerial experience"..you have also never managed a "global entity like Liverpool" off the field, like hodgson has never won anything significant with a top club, YOU are as out of depth as he is...

keeping Purslow , appointing Comolli over Kenny and the continuation of the Lfctv / official website "pro-hodgson/anti-Rafa spin fools NONE of the core supporters, and if you think we are powerless, just watch us!! worst attendance in 6 years!...

the MORE the media try to cover up the crisis and protect hodgson with propaganda &"spin" ..the MORE supporters will rebel, we already started a boycott of games & shops worldwide..soon Henry-Werner you will have to give more tickets away! "listening" to us is NOT enough! got it??..

Echo reporter Prentice only scratches the surface, results and performances on the field just a part of the "hodgson disease"

and the media have prolonged his impersonation of a Liverpool manager, when in truth he should have resigned or been replaced "after 10 games" when HE said HE should be "judged"..

he was rubbish then and with only 7 wins of 20 EPL games we look more like fulham..than fulham.. Hodgson = Titanic football expert!

media took a dislike to OUR manager Rafa Benitez and sought any chance to undermine HIM, and then defend a man who isnt worth a fraction of RB..

Hodgon was given an easy ride, and many of my Red mates wouldnt attack him ..UNtil...he started attacking us and insulting our intelligence with excuses and bs..but hes only a scapegoat for purslows power-play and NESV have bitten off more than they can chew..until hodgson goes its like having a sports car and letting a blind man drive it...hes ruining Torres...& any skilful player we sign will be ruined

Hodgson must be replaced by a TRUE "CARE-taker!, now..

ChriS SmiTH

ChriS SmiTH > January 3, 2011 at 2:10pm
Onderwerp: "hodgsons choice" pt 5 ..yank(er)s out?
more "spin" and propaganda, an old trick, just keep feeding the public on BS and eventually wear "rebellion" down by "Kop-outs"..so that we then find ourselves in a couple of months still with hodgson and still in crisis??..seen it all before..the old saying is still true "you can fool all of the people some of the time...etc"..

we really made a mess of a chance in the summer to make a fulll backed supporters action for an EQUAL stake-holiding

did you put away the banners & the scarves calling for yank(er)s OUT?? (you were warned about accepting the NESV too easily just because the previous c-nts did so much damage!)

enough is enough, no improvement after Hicks, a demoralising "coach", Purslow STILL a director = Lfc fans conned by "smooth talking & listening" Henry & Wernerwho only want to make money out of us ....wake up Reds, boycott games & shops, then THEY will act when MONEY is lost, not just "listen"

Liverpool Echo...aren't you ashamed to attempt to con the 97% of supporters who pay to watch Lfc and dont want to see hodgsons face again!! ...

"Joe Cole stole the goal" ...should be the headline on the local news (the national press will NEVER want us to suceed) and HIS manager (from the kings road mafia) Stole Benitez's job, too

.."supersub" ??? cole did nothing except risk the goal being declared offside/....and the Team played "according to Rafa" , that was not "hodgson hoofball"..!!!

... the new yankers are either clueless, naive or ......as bad as .. G & H? ..I do NOT feel any better than in the the summer... do you??

..wheres the actual evidence of improvement, or even a "feel good" factor?..9 points lost and a chance for us to own Lfc would be an improvement but swapping one group of vultures for another "nicer" lot is not doing our club any good..
(snip)

about time! ...97% of Reds want hodgson gone now, 75% knew hodgson was wrong "after 10 games" ..some of us knew that hodgson should never been appointed by a fraudulent management...

this and a boycott at the Lfc shops is the way WE show whats wrong ..not like the blues who bood anything & anyone when they frequently are in a relegation situation, excuse us, we arent used to it even if you are at Goodison!

enough is enough, no improvement after Hicks, a demoralising "coach", Purslow STILL a director = Lfc fans conned by "smooth talking & listening" Henry & Wernerwho only want to make money out of us

....wake up Reds, boycott games & shops, then THEY will act when MONEY is lost, not just "listen"

appoint Kenny, lose the imposter hodgson and let have a season of fighting for dignity not defeatist excuses!

why is Purslow still there?..why is comollie there , hodgson is riubbish, but NESV know nothing and are being advised by ??? the worst scenario possible..not even blind leading blind, its something nasty leading the blind ! just a word, on our supporters, who have been insulted by the media and this c---t hodgson(excuse me) ..listen to them tonight! ...Great SUPPORT by our lads off the field, we deserve a manager worthy of OUR great supporters ...

he wants more time?.....Ajudge shoudl give wodgson time!...spend the rest iof his life in walton watching videos of our away games this season..

why these people don't see the obvious??? because they , like hodgson are out of their depth , they are probably gonna sell us on at a profit, I dont believe any of their "slick PR talk" about listening..they made a big mistake by "endorsing hodgson" and put comolli in instead of ...Kenny..another massive error, we arent an american baseball club, we ARE a global name, whose reop is being ruined as much nw as we were with Hicks...when they shoudl have said nothing and so on..they have loaded Anfield and Melwood with 83 million credit..(and that was something we foought against when Hicks was here) ..its BS!

on "NESN" , I said...

wodgson = Titanic football expert! because although hodgson is out of his depth, so are a lot of people!..especially in the "office" and that cant be explained in a 30 second "soundbite"..

NESV; a) retained purslow, b) endorsed hodgson,c) appointed comolli over Kenny d)83 million bank credit secured against anfield/melwood e) no offer of shares to supporters

Henry & Werner know nothing about footy & never managed a global entity like Lfc = if these are our saviours???? then heaven help us
(its not blind leading blind, its something nasty leading the blind!)

ChriS
EuRED Liverpool Supporters (OverSeas) Union Network
Europe

ChriS said in reply to Mak...

trouble is, its thanks to the USA lewd media hype that everyone is scared of the media, Rafa , liek us, isnt Liverpool people have stood up against governments & regimes always and shown we are not ready to throw away ideals for the sake of "image" (HJC goes on after 21 years!)

NESV are as out of their league as hodgson, to allow a back-stabber like purslow to remain on the board shows either their ignorance or something worse, what have NESV other than slick PR?,. sweet FA!

appointing comolli instead of Kenny was another massive snub to the supporters they claim to listen to...

7000+ of our supporters showed who we are @ blackburn despite the rubbish served up by hodgson..every hour that hodgson is emplyed is another nail in the eventual seperation of FSG and us, if Henry - Werner dont want a full scale revolution on their hands (and ask hicks how we can mobilise when we are p*ssed off) then they better not just listen but clean out purslow and hodgson tomorrow Kenny is the obvious care-taker to unify everyone in crisis, and if FSG are honourable people they would rectify the backstabbing that forced out Rafa and renew the contract that was broken by hicks & purslow..

so DO the RIGHT thing , not the "media " thing! we arent not in your market YOU are in ours...and theres a million + of us,!

& in reply to "Shaun" .........

the problem with being "at a distance" is that you relay on the media too much, anyone who is a core supporter knows the xenophobic antirafa campaign of the murdoch media etc (sly tv & the rest) they feared Rafa , he stood like us, like a supporter with us, and never insulted us, hodgson was employed by freauds and fits the MO of the ex-regime, whats as worrying is that your NESV also are clueless about a global entity like LFC, one of the biggest names int he biggest sport in the world which is now a global business, not a franchise of the "fast food american marget" Henry & werner dont get it any more than you or hodgson, what we intilled in the Socialist 60's as our mantra is more than just football ist a mentality a combination of defienace and never give up, hodgson tried to bring us down to his level, well we wont have any of it..so cu next tuesday you go and follow fulham if thats your "way" we dont want you or him..bye!

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"spin" machine of FSG/LFC, USA-style...this way hodgson wont get exposed for being the fool supporters know that he iS!

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all our ex players should know , that we loved them on the field, but being a "legend" (a term too often attached to any player in our dominating TEAMS of yesteryear) that doesnt give them any credibility over dedicated footy supporters who live & breathe LFC..we go the games, we watch them often record them and watch again & again, many of us played footy also, and as Shanks or Bob would tell you its about getting the best out of the players..

so please Alan, JOhn, Kevin etc dont keep spouting the "party line" like a politcian because you will lose our support too,

its clear that hodgson is out of his depth, and even if he was set up by purslow politics theres no excuse for insulting our supporters & players whilst bigging up the opposition players and fergie etc..and defeatist tactics that have brought our team down to "fulham level"

Shanks or Bob would tell you that its about getting the most out of your players not just buying "super stars" and throwing them into a "system" ..which in hodgsons case maybe suited to clubs who are permanent under-dogs but not our club, unless we want to be like the blues and make "european qualification" our "utopia", which it may be for us if we dont sort this out TODAY..

at least Phil Thompson has now the got the message...a million + supporters and fans and maybe 20 million people around the world who "follow LFC" have woken up to what core supporters knew from the start = that Hodgson, was never rightfully employed @ Lfc, but he took
the job & the money to improve his CV, dont love us & we dont love him, at least we liked GH even if it went wrong for him and no one can doubt Rafa was Lfc 24/7 and dedicated not only to LFc but Liverpool people and the community,

people who blame Rafa should remember we started this season with a squad with the most world cup players of any club side and certainly a better squad than half the teams above us in the league now!!!!

so start spreading the news to Alan kennedy &, especially to other ex-players , journos & tv pundits & LFCtv (who at least are now allowing som dissent to get on the club tv channel..) we wont stand for it, we wont sit for it

our boycott will continue and increase until Henry-Werner act (*not "listen) on OUR advice and not some ego-maniacs still haunting our club!

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rawk

"I like Rafa and would have preferred he weren't booted...but didn't he do well with the treble winning Inter side he inherited."

"This is something I would like to reply to as I am sick of listening to this nonsense.

When Rafa got the Inter job I was happy for him as finally I thought he would get a chance to manage a ready made team. But the moment the season started and I realised Inter bought only 2 youngsters and nothing else I immediately knew he was screwed, and true enough.

However if you actually followed Inter in the first few games of the season before the injuries you'd know that Inter had one of it's best ever start in terms of goals conceded since 99. Then all hell broke loose.

The reason I knew he was screwed was simple. Shanks and Bob Paisley had already spelled it out way back then.

One of the secrets of Liverpool's longevity at the top, especially since Bob, is the the fact that wherever we finished back then we always bought new players, always! Not just to replace outgoing players but actually further strengthen the squad. And this was during the days of 1 substitution and no rotation. Almost always we were doing it from a position of strength. This unwritten rule of our success was probably learnt from Shanks fallow 7 year period when he persisted with the same players for far too long and found success again after replacing those aging heroes.

When we did the double in 77 we went on to buy Kenny for a record fee and Souey the next season and retained the European Cup. When we won the Euro again in 81 we had on our books the most expensive teenager in world football in Rush and Grob and supplemented the squad with Lawro and Nicol the next season, players who were the backbone of Fagan's treble season. Under Kenny, when we did our first League and cup double, it was only after we bought Barnes and Beardo in 87 that we further extended our dominance having had net spend of -ve 2mil the season after the double.

In world football very very few teams have gone on to do a treble. We did it twice, Man U, Barca (6 in fact) and Inter. Of all these teams only Man U and Barca have gone on to win the league, so far at least. When we did the treble in 84 our net spend for the next season was almost nil and we won zilch. After the treble in 01 we broke even in the market and only came in 2nd, close but no cigar. But for the 99-00 season, Man U's net spend was about 8 mil, or about 20 mil in today's market and won the league again. Barca spent 70 mil Euro on Ibra and sent Eto' to Inter. After winning the league again they sold Ibra and got in Villa.

Compare that to Inter and you should be able to see the picture. In fact, both teams that contested the European cup last season did not buy big this season and both have suffered greatly this season. Bayern have only now climbed the table having started extremely poorly due to.... ta da! injuries to key players. Then there's Chelsea who only bought Ramires and Benni this season after doing the double last season and look where they are.

Given these circumstances it's hardly surprising that Rafa was adamant about buying new players every season when he was with us, and this too not from a position of strength. To challenge for the title we needed more players and the same went for Inter, who probably had promised him some signings and reneged later on. One of the reasons we were so poor last season was because the horrific injury list not only prevented us from playing our best players it also stopped Rafa from rotating the squad and freshening it for the final push. Coupled that with the negative net spend we had the perfect storm last season. The same thing has happened to him at Inter.. No one bats an eyelid when Barca and Man U strengthen after winning titles and cups but when Rafa demands improvement and new players for Liverpool, having coming so close to the title, or for Inter, to maintain their dominance he is accused of being greedy and controlling. To maintain your dominance in any field you have to be a step ahead of your rivals and always demanding improvement. When asked what his hopes are for the new year, Tiger Woods answers would always be the same every year. "I want to be better than last year". I'm going out on a limb here but could that be the reason for his dominance and making him one of the best to ever play the game of golf?

According to reports the pace of football these days is 20pc faster than it was back then and players play almost 30pc more than their predecessors. It's also why rotation is so vital in today's game. With the demands of winning being such and the pressure almost incessant it's hardly surprising that players are injured so easily hence the need for new blood every season. Obviously there are many reasons that go into winning anything but when all else is equal it's the little details that make a difference, or in some cases tens of millions of pounds. That I could tell beforehand that Rafa would have problems at Inter due to their lack of spending says something.

I find it outrageous that people don't see the correlation between spending and success especially in modern day football. That Man City have finally led the table, albeit briefly, after so long must all be a coincidence and nothing to do with their spending. Then again you don't have to believe me but maybe you'll believe this cock:

"Ballack's contract came to an end," Ferguson said, according to The Guardian. "Belletti's contract came to an end. They have been replacing these players with younger ones such as [Danny] Sturridge and the young boy [Josh] McEachran. So maybe that's why their results have been erratic. Their plan was always to start introducing younger players and I think that's a good thing but it can backfire if you get injuries."

The Scot also took a pop at the Blues' relatively small squad, as United in comparison have a larger squad that could arguably cope better with injuries.

He said: "You need big squads these days because the number of matches and the intensity of matches does produce injuries. There's no question that having a big squad helps."

The same cock who had the cheek to accuse Rafa of overspending."

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Alan must remember, as should all our ex players, that we loved them on the field, but being a "legend"

(a term too often attached to any player in our dominating TEAMS of yesteryear) that doesnt give them any credibility over dedicated footy
supporters who live & breathe LFC..we go the games, we watch them often record them and watch again & again, many of us played footy also,
and as Shanks or Bob would tell you its about getting the best out of the players..

so please Alan, dont keep spouting the "party line" like a politcian because you will lose our support too,
its clear that hodgson is out of his depth, and even if he was set up by purslow politics theres no excuse for insulting our supporters
& players whilst bigging up the opposition players and fergie etc..

at least Phil Thompson has now the got the message...a million + supporters and fans and maybe 20 million people around the world who
"follow LFC" have woken up to what core supporters knew from the start = that Hodgson, was never rightfully employed @ Lfc, but he took
the job & the money to improve his CV, dont love us & we dont love him, at least we liked GH even if it went wrong for him and no one
can doubt Rafa was Lfc 24/7 and dedicated not only to LFc but Liverpool people and the community

so start spreading the news Alan, especially to ex-players , pundits & your mates in LFCtv (who at least are now allowing som dessent
to get on the channel..we wont stand for it, we won sit for it because we will boycott games and shops until Henry & Werner listen to us,
and not some misguided people still haunting our club..!

REDmen..TV

BBurn v L'pool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NMuLDAl-CA

how Stevie missed the penalty?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8MSm-ayaGo&feature=player_embedded

Hope you all like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gylNcnHuc24

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ChriS SmiTH>
not only that , whatever their "intent" they appointed comolli, who told them to do that (comolli said "i admire hodgson!!!!!!!") ..who told them to endorse hodgson after taking over??? ..but what Paul & Chris you cant ignore that NESV/FSG... loaded 83 million bank credit on anfield / melwood (which we opposed when tHIcks & co were here!!) ..not impressed. (purslow is still a director - check companies house?) ..so WHO should we trust , or rather who is worse the texans who were obvious, or the new yankers, who may be "guided" by some devious 'stard?

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@LFCTV @LivEchoLFC @liverpool (Lfc tv show) please matt, (and barbie) stop cutting callers off when they dont say what your "agenda" wants!!
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@LFCTV ...ref Torres! dont question his commitment question why any player would be happy with a fool like hodgson in charge of our team!??
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is Stevie infected by "hodg-F-kin-son disease" ..."we are out to avoid defeat" ???
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@LFCTV question , yeah a) how can any of you insult our support by propping up roy hiodgson? 3 more Lfc "yes men" on the show, no surprise!
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LFCTV (We are about to go live on air with David Fairclough and John Aldridge, do you have any questions? tweet us, (Claire and Matt)
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@DannyByrneman @anfieldonline we are not an american baseball team we are a global entity and Henry-Werner are taking wrong advice, warning!
Anfield Online(And 7 of that team were in the 11 that beat United 4-1 at Old Trafford 22 months ago.)
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Byrneman»as a Red Sox fan I'll tell you this is what u can expect from FSG, they do things in an awkward, off putting way, make u mad
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Anfield Online>The text transcript of Hodgson's in-house pre-match press conference is here - http://lfc.tv/JAy
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Frank Xavier@anfieldonline but he has over 35 years experience in the game, you'd think he could cope with one press conference
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ChriS-EuRED@LivEchoLFC bad things going on, cover-ups by Lfc/FSG add to the damage, hodgson = a picture of ridicule, STOP IT NOW! ( Global REDs action)
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LFC Balkan>"spin" machine of FSG/LFCtv, USA-style.this way coward hodgson wont get exposed for being the fool supporters know that he iS!
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ChriS-EuRED>Prentice only scratches the surface, results and performances on the field just a part of the "hodgson diseas... http://tinyurl.com/2f7jrpw
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Anfield Online>Cancelled due to 'ongoing media speculation about managers position.'
Hodgson pre-match press conference was cancelled. Expected to talk solely to in-house LFC TV channel shortly.
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ChriS-EuRED>bad news ..Lfc have cancelled the pre-match press conference, hodgson will now "soft soap" the fans on Lfc tv ... http://tinyurl.com/2apoo28
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great players dont make great experts..neither barnes nor keegan won the big trophies at managerial level..and... http://tinyurl.com/25dvlcb
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Liverpool FC>No quick fix warns ex-Liverpool trio [VIDEO] http://bit.ly/fmCCIW
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Liverpool FC >Today's press conference cancelled
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ChriS-EuRED@LivEchoLFC "spin" machine of FSG/LFC, USA-style...this way hodgson wont get exposed for being the fool supporters know that he iS!
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Liverpool Echo>Liverpool FC have cancelled their press conference - an interview with Roy Hodgson will be on the club website later. Your thoughts?
Liverpool Echo Putting together our Friday football news and video round-up. Any great video clips of skills or football funnies you've spotted this week?
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ChriS-EuRED>its clear that hodgson is out of his depth, and even if he was set up by purslow politics theres no excuse for... http://tinyurl.com/28l89ql
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Liverpool Echo>Roy Hodgson likely to lead Liverpool FC against Manchester United http://bit.ly/ecG7ep #LFC #LiverpoolFC
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ChriS-EuRED>Alan must remember, as should all our ex players, that we loved them on the field, but being a "legend" (a ter... http://tinyurl.com/266vrnx
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Liverpool Echo>We'll be live blogging & getting video from Roy Hodgson's #lfc press conference at half 1, should be interesting to say the least
The pre-match conference is due to take place at 1.30pm today #LFC
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Liverpool Echo>Is this the Reds worst spell on the pitch ever? 800+ fans voted so far - have your say in this #LFC survey http://cot.ag/eaHFaC #liverpool
Liverpool FC legend Alan Kennedy gives his support to Roy Hodgson http://bit.ly/fH3xnJ #LFC #LiverpoolFC
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Dave Prentice: Why Roy Hodgson’s time has run out at Liverpool FC http://bit.ly/h4F7nq
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Liverpool Echo>Eerie echoes of Gerard Houllier for Liverpool FC's 'dead man walking' Roy Hodgson http://bit.ly/fZbke5
Phil Thompson: Time to end Roy Hodgson's Liverpool FC reign now http://bit.ly/emmlDl
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ChriS-EuRED>@LFCTV @LivEchoLFC @liverpool (Lfc tv show) please matt, (and barbie) stop cutting callers off when they dont say what your "agenda" wants!!
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ChriS-EuRED@LFCTV ...ref Torres! dont question his commitment question why any player would be happy with a fool like hodgson in charge of our team!??
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LFCTV>still time for you to tweet us your questions for our guests David Fairclough @realjohnaldo and @JBcommentator we are on air till 7(Claire)
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Dublin May 2011??

RAWK..

on a day when the "Lfc/FSG spin machine" churned out more propaganda to prop up the titanic foty expert that is wodgson...

KWAR>"I don't know this person, nor can i verify his claims.

So make of this what you will. My impression of what he has said is that there is a lot of sense in there, and certainly is stacked with facts that we already know. In these few posts "Woolie" as he calls himself; explains who he is and some of those he knows, without jeopardising his job. So, take this with a pinch of salt, but I have little reason yet to doubt what he says.. It all seems to fit. He also talks about football with good understanding of the game, especially when he speaks about Gerrard....

Anyway, It's very insightful..
Now, to think of a subject heading..

Mods: I understand if you want to close this, the lad never claimed to be an ITK. But certainly knows a lot.
Have a read first and see if its good to stay open.. [hopefully so]

Woolie:

re Gerrard:

because he not only backed it. He suggested the appointment and approved it, together with carra at a time when we were in turmoil with the ownership situation. It has gone sour and not turned out as they both had hoped. Why else do you think Carra was given a 2 year contract ( which Rafa was reluctant to give) which included a natural progression into the coaching staff; he even took academy/reserve team coaching sessions in the summer at Kirby and at the training camp in Switzerland!! The two people who helped in Mr Hodgsons appointment, can not now all of a sudden change face and go public and **** him off!!
This is fact and was told to me by an ex player still playing in the premiership and used to live in Chester. This was confirmed to me also by a Talksport presenter on New Years Day who I took to work in my job as a chauffeur driver.

Re: Gerrard

In a nutshell we have a manager who is now being bullied by our captain to play in CM. Gerrard is that poor a CM in a 442 formation that it leaves us exposed time and time again.
I dont post often but only post when i get completely exasperated wilth the viewpoint of Liverpool fans who dont have the tools to make their own opinion and because they havent played the game to a decent level , let friends, media etc influence their standing.

Re Gerrard in a CM in a 442 , a 4231, a 442.

My closest friend is Assistant Manager at a Championship Club. He has all of his coaching badges and indeed was taught by Mr Hodgson on an UEFA course 5 years ago. He has 300 premiership games under his belt and has worked with several Premiership coaches/managers; Hence he knows what he is talking about. He is also a LFC fan with strong links with the club.

In May he told me about the fall out between Benitez/Gerrard and that it had broken down and was irrepairable. In other words one had to go. He said that due to the fact that Benitez was at fault for the departure of Alonso ( Benitezs' refusal to aplogise to Alonso and his wife after the Inter game in 2008 being the issue), the worry was that players who he had also fell out with ,would leave. So Benitez left.
We were on holiday in Spain ( golf trip/ my stag do) when Benitez left ( early June) and we were given a masterclass in inside football talk from this friend, due to it ****ing down all day. My friends were then given a lecture with the aid of beer glasses, mats etc on how poor a CM player Gerrard is in a 442.
He relays 3 stories. One involving Benitez, one involving Stuart Pearce/Sven-Goran Erikson and another involving Whisky nose Ferguson, all relating to Gerrard.
First off . Benitez. My friend doesnt particularly like Rafa ( we disagreed big time over this), but his opinion is formed from a personality point of view. He was saying that he is referred to , within the game, as a tactical genius and accredited his 4231 system as the best system used today. He tells this story at meeting Benitez at a seminar and discussing Gerrards positional weaknesses in the CM position and finds it fascinating ( January 2005).
Secondly Stuart Pearce. My friend visited Anfield with Stuart Pearce in November 2006 for a Champions League game. This was due to Pearces Man City playing at Anfield on the Saturday after. I think the game was PSV. Anyway the day after my friend took a session with Pearce in the morning then went through videos of LFC with the players , showing LFCs weaknesses and strengths. There was 30 minutes on Gerrards weaknesses in a CM position. They knew he would be playing there due to injuries and suspensions. On the Fiday they then coached Joey Barton and Micah Richards on outplaying Gerrard, in a 5 man midfield
Any of you fellow anoraks out there this was one of Rafas few attempts to deploy a 352 sweeper system which he scrapped after 1minute 30 secs as he say City had come to play 451. Frustratingly for City , Gerrard scored the winner after Joey Barton stood and slipped on the ball and he side footed in from just outside the box. Gerrard had been outplayed all day by
Barton and Richards and had spent most of the game tracking back.

Lastly Ferguson. Although my friend had several run-ins with Ferguson in his playing days , it didnt stop him attending coaching clinics ran by Ferguson and even Brian Kidd. Ferguson was quoted as saying about Gerrard that he was the finest British attacking midfielder since Gascoine, at the same time as his defensive mentality was equally poor.
He went on to describe Gerrards poor defensive qualities down to his natural tendency to be forward thinking.
Two recent examples of this being G Barry goal at the Eastlands earlier this season where Gerrard made three positional mistakes in 25 seconds in the build up.
In short Gerrard has and always will do as little as possible when we havent got the ball ( criminal in a 442, but ok in the middle of the 3 in a 4231 ( off Torres)). Look at the way he half looks at milner to his left , lets him half go as if thinking he wont pass it there, he wont pass it there, oh **** he has passed it there!! by the time he tracks Milner back he has passed it back to an unmarked Barry who slots home! Gerrard does this way to often and has done for years. Thars why you will see him making so many tracking back last ditch tackles!! The best CM players over the years are very rarely seen going to ground as there positional sense is that good that they squeeze the play into other areas and invariably backwards.
The last point my friend raises is a fascinating stat.
Steven Gerrard has played over 600 senior career games for both Liverpool and England. He has played considerably less than 200 of those games in his preferred CM position!! Hence at this moment , at the age of 30, he doesnt possess the wealth of experience that he should have or would have had if he had played all of his career there. He has played under 9 managers during his career and every manager bar Hodgson have preferred to play him anywhere but CM.
In conclusion Gerrard , in my opinion is the greatest liverpool player that I will ever see, but he aint a CM. He should be given the same licence that Messi, Ronaldo and Ronaldinho have been given over the years and set free to do as much damage as possible. Free him of all defensive responsibilities and push him forward. Believe me , every premiership team would rather have Gerrard tracking back and defending throw-ins and corners rather than trying to stop him playing one-twos and give and gos around their penalty box!!!!

re: Hodgson

He ( friend) the expressed concern if Mr Hodgson ever managed our club.
From a professional point of view Mr Hodgson is considered a "regimental coach". As he keeps on reminding us he has coached for 35 years; and there lies the problem. He is a 442 coach. He will not change his methods and also does not know how to. He has no man-management skills whatsoever. He does not know how to change a game or let alone influence a game once the game has started. He will only ever substitute like for like.
My friend went on to state ( before he was appointed) how appalling his away record is ( in any country) and how appalling his coaching sessions
were in dealing with set pieces.( they didnt and still do not exist!!!)
He expressed grave concerns at the removal of Benitez ( even though he personally didnt like him) at the time due to the upheaval at the club with the previous owners. The feeling being that Rafa loved the area, the fans, the club so much that he was prepared to put up with all of the crap that was going on because he thought he could be part of a new beginning with the club. ( Mr Benitez lives 5 mile from here and 7 mile away from his parents home. Montse plays golf at the same golf club as his father).
Interestingly He ( friend) stated that due to the upheaval at the club , we would now only attract a manager of the likes of Allardyce/ McClaren/ Curbishley/Oneill/Hodgson who would just like to get LFC on their CV and wouldnt give two hoots what was going on in the boardroom. We were hardly going to get a Van Gaal, Hiddink or Mourinho with them two yanks in charge were we!!
So he was right! We got a manager who just wanted LFC on his CV, it would be his last chance to manage a big club and we got a coach that stuck in his old ways that we unbelievably have gone backwards!!
We have a manager who is that far detached from the Shankly ethos it is quite simply disgusting!! He assembled ok/ average plyers from around the British Isles, and sent them out of the changing room believing they were giants and could annihilate anybody. He made them feel like they were invincible. We now have a buffoon of a manager who slage his own players off to the press, doesnt back them when theyve been accused of cheating says that he's happy with a draw against Birmingham and thinks Northampton Town are formidable opponents!!!!!!!!
And to think we got rid of a manager who gave us champions league football 5 years out of 6, defeated Barcelona and Real Madrid in their own back yard, a win/lose/ draw ratio second only to Bob Paisley,two Champions league finals in 3 years, outscored the Champions in the year we achieved a higher Premiership points score ( came 2nd), left behind a squad ( a squad that people **** off as being the worst for years) that had more players at the World Cup Finals than any other club on the planet, and most of all got it!! HE GOT IT!!!

He understood what this club is all about. He understood what loving LFC was all about. He understood that we ARE different from other fans. We mostly dont fit in to the Soccer AM modern footabll fan mentality. He integrated himself into the community, he was here for life, he had plans and still has for his girls to attend University here. His wife loved and still loves it here. Interesting that she reinstated her membership at the golf club on the wirral on November 26th 2010 and reinstated the girls for the start of this term , on the same day!!!! ( 3 weeks before he was sacked). I hope Rafa is now taking the time out of football that his wife had asked him to and that he is sorting his head out. I'm not saying Rafa should come back, far from it , but my friends who know me , know I dont speak until Ive got something to tell them ,and with the people I work with and for , and the friends I have within the game, I only pass on which I know is fact.
I dont post regularly, so as December /January is quiet for me I tend to visit and make contact with all the people in my social circle, so I'll pass on some snippets for you to digest , while Im in the mood.

RE: appointing new manager

was told this afternoon by a talksport presenter that new owners are reluctant to do anything until the new CEO is appointed. They had 2nd round
of interviews just before xmas and have made their choice. This, however, for whatever reason, was not due to be announced until 12th Jan. They would rather the new man made the choice as they dont feel in-touch with the situation here yet. The rumour last week is that Commoli favours Deschamps and Dalglish favours Owen Coyle

RE: why Rafa would talk openly to a steward

hi hope this works. Not used to this.. but on match days chief stewards and head stewards at Anfield are assigned players , staff and management to walk them back to their cars. This is obviously for safety reasons and also so they're not signing autographs all night. Someone in authority then says that thats enough ( not the player) and the player doesnt come across as aloof or rude. FYI Gerrard will tell the appointed steward if he is in the mood and for how long, while Torres , Reina and Kuyt will sign near on all thats put in front of them!!

RE:

got loads more about our beloved club. Havent got a problem divulging more stuff , but not on here. I normally go every game, but got married last year , and felt sick to the back teeth at whats been going on at our club and started to lose interest; and with a wedding approaching started to pick and choose my games!! Have read some of the posts and not really bothered whether some buffoons take the ****.

I drive a lot of players, ex-players, referees , agents, managers, staff etc around so find things out on a daily basis. Things that you find out by delicately making conversation with your clients, to pass the time of day. I guess 90 % of it is boring small talk but over the last few years I think there has been so much crap flying round that people have just been slagging everybody else off!!!

RE: Rafa and 2009

The EXACT words that have been used by staff/ contacts that I have spoke to in recent months. Rafa took his eye off the ball last season and became a bitter man consumed in playing the media game and fighting the fans corner dayin -dayout instead of concentrating on what was happening on the pitch. This was ultimately his downfall and I too am staggered at the split in fans opinion at reaching probably 50/50 in whether Rafa should go or not.
If Rafa could be criticised, it would be his stubbornness and coldness towards
delicate issues and alternative personalities. His inability to be able to improve working relationships between himself and the players and fellow staff and his refusal or inability to make things better when they did go wrong , caused him unnecessary problems.
I for one hope that he comes back one day, hopefully after a much needed break from the game and comes back with a fresh approach. If he does take a break, like Montse had wished for in the summer, then they will be a lucky club that gets him .

RE: why Woolie posted today

Like a lot of other reds I'm just fed up of the decline of our club
and last night as a new low for me. I was even on TalkSport this evening as Im so ********** off right now .
If youve read all my posts today you will know that I find out a few things from staff,players , ex players , agents etc because of the work I do. I dont profess to be ITK and dont profess to be a Rafa fanatic either. I played the game to a high level and consider many ex-pros as good friends. I just get thoroughly ********** off at the radio stations and other media outlets castagating Rafa and laying the blame at his door for the current mess, when everyone that I speak to, want Hodgson out and quick. The bashing that Liverpool fans took on Talksport on wednesday afternoon was the final straw for me. I very rarely get involved in this sort of thing , but feel that strongly over this farce as I feel if its left to simmer down and blow over, I think we could be in serious trouble! I may have made a mistake relaying some of this info, time will tell. Theres only one snippet ive mentioned that could cause me a bit of trouble but I will sort that asap.
Anything about Hodgson Im not bothered about whatsoever as I feel he is doing irrepairable damage to our club and dragging us down to mediocrity. It was unprofessional of me to do that today but the thought of us going to Old Trafford with Whisky Noses best mate leading the charge, makes me shudder!!

ps might tell ya the truth over Robbie Keane one day!

Re: Crouch, Aquilani, what clubs Rafa can do deals with etc...

Peter Crouch moved to Portsmouth purely for the London Lifestyle. Rafa never wanted him to leave and even offered him a new 4 year contract at £60k. He turned it down and forced through his move to Portsmouth where he bought his family home in ......... Cobham, Surrey!!!!!! Yes folks 70 mile away 3 doors from John Terry !!! He had promised Heiraderson he would buy his house and then went back on his word so that Abby could have the lifestyle she craved. Only after he was late 3 times for training in the first two weeks ( traffic on A3) did Harry insist he stayed in The Marriott the night before each training day!!!

People ask what really went on in the summer ( June/ July 2009) when Rafa referred to something changing.
The previous owners had promised Rafa the Alonso money ( £ 24.5 million paid in full) and then went back on their word. All the money was used to to pay the interest to RBS!!!They then pulled the plug on the transfer budget during the transfer negotiations for Glen Johnson. Chelsea found out about this and made there interest in Glen Johnson public ( June 10 th 2009 approx) and hence pushing the price up and wiping out the budget. The owners also insisted that due to the club being for sale that the only clubs that Rafa could deal with were clubs that still owed Liverpool money!! ie they technically used their valid credit notes at Portsmouth and Roma. Liverpool were owed £6million by Portsmouth and £3 million by Roma.
This explains why Rafa was forced to buy an injured player who was not fit. The £ 3million was written off as a down payment , with a further £4 million when he had played a certain number of games or January 31st whatever came first!. Due to 3 injuries Aquilani crept up to the deadline. The owners/ Purslow instructed Rafa not to play Aquilani during XMAs 2009 and January 2010 as they felt they had been kidded by Roma and were reluctant to pay a further £ 4 million in January. Rafa did as he was told and no further payment neede to be made until June 2010. THis is why Rafa put Aquilani on as a late sub for 30msecs, in a European game so as Purslow couldnt loan him out or sell him against his wishes. Stubbornness or stupidity, whatever but as you can see Rafa was getting pretty sick of things by now!! This was the last straw for the owners and Purslow who then decided Rafa needed to go!!

And finally THE BOMB!!

We all remember the Torres debacle last season. His injury, whether he needed an operation or not , whether he was fit or not, whether he had fell out with Rafa or not, whether he wanted to leave or not.

Well here goes. I'm telling some of these as I am thoroughly ********** off with the goings on at our club!! From the completely inept Parry to the lies fed to the press by Purslow and the previous owners to deflect the blame for the mess that was being created , onto Mr Benitez.

Torres had had an operation in early 2010 to cure a knee problem. He was brought back but wasnt truly fit and was infact "running lame". Under the current physios and doctors he ( Torres) was assured that he would recover all fitness and strength for the World Cup. Torres at this time had made it clear that didnt want to miss the world Cup. He made a few substitute appearances and few starts , without really looking fit or even comfortable.
At this stage people need to know how most top clubs work in getting players fit for a weekend and how that information dictates the team selection. The day before a game, the fitness coaches and physios will submit a list or report to the manager on what the players personal fitness levels are, what stage of recovery they are and what minutes they can be expected to give. The manager then selects his team and subs based on that
information.
Birmingham away 4th April 2010
Rafa having been instructed that Torres was progressing fine, wasnt running lame and just needed game time started him. Anyone remember how poor and how ineffective Torres was in the first half? He was substituted early in the 2nd half, much to the disgust of our captain, who famously looked at the camera in disgust at the switch when we were trying to win the game.
Rafa had asked the club doctor and physios at half time and again early in the 2nd half if they thought that Torres was indeed fit and indeed fit enough to start. A senior player confirmed to me at the time that neither the physio or doctor said anything at all, leaving Rafa to assume that something was not right. With Benfica coming up on the Thursday he immediately removed Torres as he feared further injury, risking the wrath of the fans who knew we needed Torres on the pitch to win the game and keep CL qualification alive.
Rafa then questioned Torres fitness levels in the week of the Benfica game and was again reassured that all was ok. He started against Benfica and scored , but suffered a reaction to the knee. Over the next few days he returned to Spain to see the surgeon, who reported to Rafa that the knee had
deteriorated and he had suffered further injury due to being " rushed back" and " not being looked after properly". It was decided there and then that Torres would undergo further surgery in an effort to be fit for the World cup.

When I spoke to a chief steward in MAY 2010 , he told me that Rafa had told him that he had been lied to about Torres state of fitness by the fitness team and he felt awful that Torres would probably miss the world cup because of it.
Torress' anger at being treated like this was portrayed by his agent who told Rafa , his client would never play for LFC again, blaming the club for him missing a return to Athletico Madrid and also ruining his World Cup chances/preparation, and putting the club before his personal health!!
Torres was furious and didnt believe neither Benitez explanation nor the medical staffs account of things, choosing to blme both parties.
The chief steward then told me that this was the reason that the medical staff involved had resigned their positions at the club in "disgust at the pressure and unethical approach from senior management to influence and alter a professional diagnosis and process in administering a fitness rehabilitation programme to a LFC employee"

Rafa had then since told the chief steward that he could not believe that the medical staff had behaved so unprofessionally and felt deeply upset that people he had hired, had lied to him be it under pressure or not.

It transpired that certain previous employees of LFC under instruction from previous owners of LFC had asked certain previous members of the medical staff to get Torres back as soon as possible and that risks needed to be taken to try and ensure CL qualification so as the club was a more viable proposition to any prespective buyers!!!!
We all know who this former employee is and it wasnt Sir Martin Broughton!

Anyway think Ive said enough really. Whether this causes me a few problems with the circle of friends i have im not sure. its out there now and im not that bothered whos ********** off with it.
Our club is falling to pieces by buffoons. God help us!!"

CS>note ; Purslow is STILL employed as DIRECTOR of Liverpool football club..so do you still trust the "new yankers" ?????????????????

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CS>@LFCtv ..U dont have the right to quote Shanks when you prop up Titanic footy"expert"Hodgson, he is the "Anti-Shanks"- REd fans are disgusted
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ChriS-EuRED@LFCTV @lfctv whats the award for ?...dishing out USA - style "spin" or is it the purslow propaganda programming trophy?
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Liverpool FC >Gerrard eager to face Utd http://bit.ly/gJ7joH
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ChriS-EuRED>@kopredsgirl hiya, hope for once the Echo have someone who wont dish out typical media BS, supporters need someone to tell the truth on LFc!
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LFCTV>Steven Gerrard on United, FA Cup, form and camera kissing: http://lfc.tv/Jeu
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CS>too many ex players in the media spout rubbish, none of them have won titles (as managers), dont back supporters when hodgson & media insulted us
ChriS-EuRED>well done frank! we are sick of the biased media with pro-hodgson BS!!!, you @ Lfc tv also need to remember who built this club - supporters
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ChriS-EuRED@LFCTV first time I have wanted to watch your programme this season..no more "censorship" i hope! global REDS supporters back Kenny & team!
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Liverpool Echo> VIDEO: Liverpool FC fans have their say on @kennethdalglish replacing Roy Hodgson http://bit.ly/f2cYkI
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LFC Balkan>youth cup Liverpool 3 palace (near where hodgson comes from!) 1 great attacking team performance by lads (many signed by Rafa!!) FUTUREDS!;)
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@jonesy73 @ohitmustbe .... cockney/manc sly sports media full of scum!
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CS@laurenda_es @glen_johnson "legend" merson? what a joke, legend in his own bar room, and on SLY sport, the tv channel of bullsh*te & liars!
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Liverpool Echo>Analysis: Roy Hodgson's Liverpool FC season of woe http://bit.ly/hsgpiQ
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Sam Armstrongby JayMcKenna87>Liverpool FC future starts tomorrow. Win, lose or draw it's the line in the sand. Twice in the last six months fan pressure come to bear.
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LFC Balkan>Welcome back King Kenny! YNWA!
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Liverpool Echo>Liverpool FC defender @Glen_Johnson embroiled in Twitter row with TV football pundit Paul Merson http://bit.ly/gpdVht

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Joe True Kopite Kirby> Is it time we let fernando go? I love him I really do bt he just doesnt seem bothered, attitude stinks, doesnt work hard,Ngogs betteratm

ChriS SmiTH> THIS is the TIME for TRUE kopites to get behind kenny , and support the TEAM no matter who Kenny picks..THis is the TIME for all REDS to stick together, its bad enough with the media , referees and such we shouldnt be publicly aginst any of our players leave that to our enemies..!

"Football is a simple game based on the giving & taking of passes, controlling the ball and making yourself available."
(Shanks)

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Whilst on the "good news" welcome back Danny Agger..(number 5) ..scorned by hodgson did well v Bolton, "rested" by wodgson @ BBurn (& of course without him & Fabio it was hoof..again) but looked class again @ OT..come on Danny you are the best footballing centre back in the EPL, with Kenny make sure that youl become the best in the World !...for LIVERPOOL!

and........why do I defend Torres more than some players? ..its at least because he is one of the few truly world class players we have, he was mis-handled by Hicks, Purslow & Hodgson and his love of LIVERPOOL is true, despite media BS! ..and he looks how I imagien my estranged son Leon (14) could look when he is older <SMILE>

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